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And, but, but even that South African one, that was, it was information processing is what I was, uh, you know, I, I was coming from that method.

But I was stuck there 'cause I, uh, I thought I was doing it, quote-unquote, but then didn't understand, as Rob Gray, uh, says, you know, the two roots of the tree.

Mm-hmm.

So the information processing root was where I was in.

And so then it's like, okay, well, how can, how can we really be learner-centered when we're not doing things in harmony with how all the current research is showing that people learn? So I can't say I'm learner-centered if, [laughs] if I don't know how people learn and I'm not actually doing things in line, uh, with that.

So, so then, then, yeah, that, then I, you know, for the la- last number of years then went, okay, like I, I, I need to, I need to smarten up here.

And, and so, you know, s- listened to every Rob Gray podcast and read a whole bunch of res- Just, just like you, your, your-

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I'm presuming they have heard the term and probably have some cursory understanding of what it is.

We've done much more in-depth chats specifically about the ecological approach, and I'll put some links in the show notes to some of our earlier episodes with Greg Sauder and Rob Gray if people wanna check that out and go more in depth.

That's not entirely the focus of this conversation, though, but I think we'd be doing a disservice if we didn't give a quick primer.

I know that you give a lot of eco made easy seminars for people, and that, I think, is something that the world is probably much in need of.

And to me, it's more fun, it's more live, it's more engaging, and that's why I've, like, threw myself in completely that way once I started trying this.

And I'm like, "Okay, I've been doing grappling for 20-something years at the time," and I s- I was one of the earlier adopters.

Like five, six years ago, whenever somebody like Greg came out or Rob Gray talking about it, I'm like, "All right, this makes sense," because this kind of how I kind of thought without any framework, and it kind of meshed in perfectly, and I'm like, "All right, let me go all in with that, and I'm gonna start reading.

I'm gonna start trying.

And then when I'm thinking back, I read a lot of books.

One that comes to mind is Learn How to Move by Rob Gray.

Um, I think that's a fundamental book a lot of coaches should read.

It's insightful, very digestible.

And he's worked with Keith Davids to write some books.

And I think he's worked with Rob Gray.

So I have no idea how to do this for an individual, to be honest with you.

So that's why I'm kind of like, how do you improve swimming through constraints? And I'm looking forward to that conversation.

Yeah.

I like that Ry- I like that story for Rob Gray.

I'm not telling him to do what to do on a Cy-Hawk week, but all those guys are Iowans for the most part.

Um, Claiborne's from Kansas.

this is an amazing connection to John Boyd's real OODA loop because we use, he uses fingers, spits and gefuel, a fingertip fill as implicit guidance control.

So that intuition, that skill, that skill acquisition, I never heard anybody talk about, well, maybe I have, maybe Rob talks about Phil, Rob Gray and others, but, um, this kind of reminds me anytime you go to a optometrist and they go, you know, one or two, right? You're like, well, you're like, ah, about the same, but, but over time you get it right.

It's the same thing, right? You want to, you want to contrast that or give them that context to go, which one feels right to you or better, not right, but better for

you.

Jackson Pence, main man on my left.

Rob Gray, the one we all aspire to be, on our right.

How we doing, gentlemen? Happy game week.

Happy game week to you guys.

You can look for those on the Cyclone Fanatic Podcast Network.

We'll also have The Daily Clone on Thursday, Cyclone Fanatic pregame, halftime show, post-game, CF After Dark.

Rob Gray will have all of his great written coverage on cyclonefanatic.com. Did I miss anything? [laughs] We, we...

I don't think so.

So it's time for a call to action.

Hi, this is Rob Gray from Arizona State University.

I've been on a now over 25-year journey as a researcher, professor, and high-performance consultant to understand how we acquire and adapt our perceptual motor skills.

Welcome to the Perception in Action podcast, where I discuss how psychological research can be applied to improving performance, accelerating skill acquisition, and designing technologies.

Now on to the show.

Hi, everyone.

It's Rob Gray here.

I thought I would share with you a new topic.

But that's going to be there.

And some of the folks you'll actually see there are Deja Vu, Rob Gray, McCrank, Jake Payne.

Samson Alexander, Baxter, meaty Mike Gagne.

Oh, the meat freak.