Roads of National Significance

It's a bit of a taxing chat, isn't it? Look, one of the big sort of debates or legs of the tax debate recently has been fuel excise duty.

So the government's been under pressure about the Roads of National Significance program and they're going, oh, far out.

Is it affordable? Is it not affordable? How are we going to do this? There's a sort of default to tolls, which I think is a good thing.

Back in the day, New Zealanders were all on board with tolling for new infrastructure.