Rj Gritter

And I've been, I don't know what I have 5,000 hours of aerobatic flying probably and 30-something years of doing it, and I still feel like I can get better every time I go.

And I learn, and I learn from y- you know, young people that are just get- like RJ Gritter is, and Kevin Coleman are two people that, uh, I work with a lot, and they're, they're much younger than me.

Yet they're both creative in their own way, and, um, they help push you.

And I think that's the...