there's not many, really.

There's not that many.

So I think it's really important to educate ourselves.

Why wouldn't we? Why wouldn't we learn which ones are the pests and which ones are the beneficials? People are out there squishing lady beetle larva.

Beetles, they don't look really cute until you realize what they are, and then they become really cute-looking when you realize they actually do for you.

But And I think when we realize that our best friends in the garden are the beneficials, there are, you know, they're free pest service and they're going to be there.

So I am going to go when I see aphids, you know, I've heard some of the, Some of the Rosarians on this trip saying they don't touch the aphids, the little beetles will come.

What would you want to say to

So let's define that term.

Okay.

So, um, you know, I grow my roses naturally and organically.

So by naturally, I mean I don't use pesticides and fungicides.

I just don't.

Um, and I don't believe we need to do it.

But there's a couple things we do need to do, and that is we need to select the right roses.

Mm-hmm