Rishad Tobaccowala

Mm-hmm.

So it's where I get very excited is when the teams are not stuck in the containers of the past, as Rishad Tobaccowala would say it.

Ah.

Um, they are actually very forward-thinking.

[upbeat music] Welcome back to the Rethinking Work show, a show about how work is changing and how we can change with it.

I'm your host, Rishad Tobaccowala.

For years, companies were encouraged to stand for something beyond the products they sold.

Today, many are pulling back, softening commitments, speaking less publicly about their values, and deciding that silence may be the safest strategy.