Richard V. Reeves

I did not expect to come out.

One was Richard Reeves when we're walking along in a park in Philadelphia.

And he's like, yeah, you know that men only feel comfortable talking when they're shoulder to shoulder.

They don't actually like looking at each other's eyes.

I don't like when people say that.

That one gets me down.

But I would say the whole idea of being, first of all, Richard Reeves, what a guy.

What an absolute...

We do, actually, yeah.

A chap called Richard Reeves has written about what do we need to do about men and, like, what's the modern masculinity? You know, I think it's a societal issue.

Actually, it's a really big subject, so maybe we should talk about this.

Yeah.

All right, there's that partnership word one more time.

This is going to be interesting because I'm going to compare and contrast Richard Reeves with Richard Reeves here in a moment.

So for example, there's a question that asks young women what they're looking for in a potential marriage partner.

And breadwinning potential is always pretty high on the list, top three on the list, not so much the other way around.

And so I think that's what's going on here.

And what women are looking for, by and large, isn't the what a trad husband so they can be a trad wife to that trad husband of course

okay now this is where the bias comes in because we have to find some case i'll tell you that what they're what i notice right now is guys like this and And, you know, all due respect to Michael Sartain, I know he loves him some Richard Reeves.

And actually, I think Richard Reeves actually has some hope left in him.

They are retreating into the safety of their bedrooms, dropping out of higher education at alarming rates and completely withdrawing from the physical competitive world.

Dr. Haight brings up the work of Richard Reeves, who studies the American male, and points out a devastating social class divide here that we don't talk about enough.

It's a very important point.

While the data shows that girls across all economic classes are struggling heavily with anxiety and depression, the crisis for boys is highly stratified.

Number one, he's in the manosphere, and that he's a misogynist.

Chris Williamson's a misogynist? There's another one talking about his interview with Richard Reeves.

Richard Reeves has done nothing.

These are w- these are political leftists, academics, and they're being called misogynists because they don't, they don't hate the manosphere enough.

I've got news for you.

And he is going to be joining to discuss some possible reasons why the clinical system is missing men who show potential warning signs, things like anger or irritability.

We also have with us Richard Reeves.

He is the president of the American Institute for Boys and Men and author of the book of Boys and Men, Why the Modern Male is Struggling, Why it Matters, and What to Do About It.

Dr. Sanjay, Richard, welcome to the podcast.

And what that is, male therapists for men.

That is, and that just doesn't really exist as a concept because we are a minority in the heel professions, you know, Richard Reeves heel professions and therapy is one of them.

So my whole life now is dedicated to the betterment of men's mental health.

And it's not an easy life I've chosen as you well know.

Ashanti, you're not an expert.

Like, you know, there are people out there, Zach Seidler, he's an expert.

The guy from Movember, like Richard Reeves, perhaps he might be an expert, but Again, he's not even a researcher, you know? So like the problem is in the men's space is that of course the men's space still has all of the problems inherent in masculinity and maleness wrapped up in it, which is greed, which is kind of destructive stepping over each other and not helping each other kind of, you know, pulling up the ladder behind you.

And I find that so frustrating.

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The o- the only one I read that I thought was good was Of Boys and Men by Richard Reeves, but he's an economist, and so i- it's all data.

He's no...

It's not a page-turner.

But it ends up with like child protective services coming to his house, amateur sleuths thinking he's a kidnapper, and, uh, you know, it couldn't, couldn't be worse.

He responded by just bowing out of society.

Um, and there's a statistic that Richard Reeves came up with from the Brookings Institute, um, that there's 6.7 million men in America who aren't only unemployed, they aren't even looking for work.

They've bowed out.