Do you think that's been a part of what's enabled you to make these really complicated decisions? massive production i

mean potentially i think it's reversing the stigma of dyslexia so i'm dyslexic and so my dyslexia gives me the superpower that i can see order i can go that doesn't work i can be in a gallery someone can change the order and before you've changed the order i know it's wrong because my brain is logical i can go that doesn't work i can't spell for toffee Yeah, if I send an email to a commissioner, I have to get Katie, my producer, to check that it makes sense before I send it.

But put me in front of a running order, put me in front of an order, put me in front of huge charts where you're making masses of programs.

My brain can absolutely see it all.

And it's a bit like...

It's a bit like Jonah Hill in Moneyball.

I can see the patterns go.

The

And on a baking hot day like today, we're at the right place for these cows because this is one of your, your troughs here?

It is.

This is one of our water troughs that we have in every field, every paddock.

We can hear the water running in there.

[water runs] And, and the trough is full, so that's good.

That's what we like to see.

So what we've got here is a trough with a special valve on.

And you actively keep these hedges like this so that they can provide shade?

'Cause i- in a way, it- it- it's odd, isn't it, that radio started sort of decades before that, but hadn't really evolved very much until the advent of pirate radio.

Oh, well, your political side bounces in here when the famous John Stonehouse, who became famous for something (laughs) completely different...

Uh, I was on holiday in Majorca with a friend, and he dashed back with a copy of The Telegraph, and the headline was, "Pirate radios to close.

Labour government closes it down.

Too much, um, illegal activity." I mean, whether that was true or not, I don't know.

Most of the businessmen who ran it, um, had pretty good reputations and came from, from pretty solid backgrounds.

But that was the end of pirate radio.

(laughs)