Rich Lyons

That is amazing.

I remember you had mentioned prior stories about Rich Lyons and Jenny Chapman.

Tell us about that because Rich Lyons is now our chancellor and Jenny's our dean.

What, what were they like back when you met them?

So it is kind of crazy to think that, and I loved the to-- watching this progression in our class, and I started the program in like fall of '96 and graduated in May of '99.

I finished, you know, a semester early, but walked in May of '99.

And two of my favorite classes were Rich Lyons' class and Jenny Chapman's class.

So to have both of them as professors is crazy, and to watch their progression has been just pretty amazing.