You can solve the problems where Congress is deadlocked." What's going on here? 'Cause this is one of the most important missed bullets that he dodged.

Yeah.

Well, first I wanna say that the other comparison people often make for Washington is Cincinnatus, the great Roman leader who rose up to defend Rome and then went back to his plow.

So people called George Washington the American Cincinnatus.

So there was some precedent, but yes, you have to go back a really long time to even find anything like that.

George Washington didn't just have to win a war against the British.

He had to do it in a unique way, because he was the leader of a nation that was really trying to do something new, which was to create a republic over a very large area.

Walk us through the, his administration and how it goes against conventional wisdom.

So I'm just curious if your experience with your cousin's view of Washington was unique or if you've encountered other people Maybe not just in China, but in general, that also share this appreciation of our founding fathers, because that did surprise me a little bit, honestly.

Yeah, absolutely.

So, yeah, this was in 2007.

So it was many years ago.

And basically it was during a family reunion.

It was through my stepdad's family.

So not blood related, but obviously still family.

So, like, how do you, can you expand on that in general, but then also explain like how that fits into what we're talking about here because I think that's a really interesting, another question of balance I think that they that they really understood that most revolutions don't seem to revolutionaries don't seem to.

It was a TV movie, which was well-made, but not the big-budget blockbusters

I'm planning to make.

So I have many, many thoughts on this.

Mark, thanks for bringing it up because you're absolutely right.

The father of the nation has not had a film that is equal to his stature as a American president and the father of the nation.

A few thoughts.

The first thought is that I know a professor and he teamed up with a screenwriter and actually wrote a script about the Newberg conspiracy specifically.

Do you have anything on that, Richard? I know you've never heard the accent, it's never been recorded, of course, but we're talking about mid-18th century Virginia.