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Richard DeVos

Richard DeVos

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Oct 11, 2026

Scott JohnsonHOST
46:28
Um, and, uh, Steve Van Andel, who's the son of Jay Van Andel, Amway's co-founder.
Scott JohnsonHOST
46:36
And at that time I believe he was co chairperson him and, um, the son of Rich DeVos.
Scott JohnsonHOST
46:44
They were co-chairpersons at that time.
Scott JohnsonHOST
46:47
So they're

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Scott JohnsonHOST
52:19
They're known for being tight.
Scott JohnsonHOST
52:21
And it just goes through the whole culture.
Scott JohnsonHOST
52:23
It goes through You know, the fact that, you know, Rich DeVos and J.
Scott JohnsonHOST
52:27
Van Andel were of Dutch ancestry, and boy, did they bring that going Dutch forward, you know, in spades.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
27:28
All you have to do is get your attitude right, align your will, tap this power of the universe, power of God, really interchangeable.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
27:38
And, you know, in the case of somebody like Rich DeVos, who wrote a lot on this, get out there and start selling Amway, right? Like you can succeed.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
27:47
Systemic inequality does not exist.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
27:49
This is the power of the mind, the power of your attitude.

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Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
45:03
You've got, you know, eventually you've got Christian radio and you've got very deliberate decision making going on about who is our target audience? What does she want to hear? And how can we cater to her whims and keep her coming back for more? Same thing with Christian bookstores.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
45:19
So, you know, as a cultural historian, I'm looking at these cultural products, but I'm always also very much looking at the behind the scenes.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
45:26
Who is doing what? And then who is in the room together? Who is in the room together in the mid-1970s, years before Jerry Falwell's moral majority, to strategize how to take America back for God? It is Amway's Rich DeVos.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
45:42
along with Campus Crusades, Bill Bright, and Senator John Conlon, right? They have this plan and they're ready to carry it out.
Beth SilversHOST
31:35
The, the way to say, "Of course, this all benefits women," because women are stepping forward and leading some of these movements.
Beth SilversHOST
31:41
Which, which really came to a head for me when you quoted Betsy DeVos-
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
31:47
Mm
Beth SilversHOST
31:47
... who served as Trump's Secretary of Education-
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
25:06
You don't have systemic sin because everything is the power of the individual.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
25:10
All you have to do is get your attitude right, like align your will, tap this power of the universe, power of God, really interchangeable, and, you know, the case of somebody like Rich DeVos, who wrote a lot on this, get out there and start selling Amway, right? [laughs] Like you, you can succeed.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
25:27
And if you are raising issues like systemic inequality, systemic racism, clearly you are focusing on negative things, and no wonder you are not succeeding.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
25:36
This is how this ideology works, and it works profoundly well.
Kristen Kobes-DuméGUEST
67:51
You hear this in Christian romance novels.
Kristen Kobes-DuméGUEST
67:53
You hear all the time in multilevel marketing companies, not coincidentally, many of which are founded by evangelicals like Rich DeVos.
John FugelsangHOST
68:03
Yeah.
John FugelsangHOST
68:04
Well, and again, none of this has anything to do with Jesus who modeled critical thinking against religious leaders and who broke the law to treat women as equals.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:09
It's very tantalizing and that's why we see tens of millions of women drawn into these ultimately very manipulative systems where only a very, very small number turn any significant profit.
Doug HenwoodHOST
32:23
And this is deeply wrapped up with right-wing politics, especially the DeVos family and Amway, but they're not alone.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:29
Yep.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:29
That's another thing that I really uncovered in this book, that if you look at the DeVosses, Rich DeVos plays a very important role.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:38
He and Jay Van Andel, of course, started Amway.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:41
And another figure here is Mary Crowley.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:50
She goes on to become the first woman on the board of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:55
And what we see is these millionaires, very wealthy individuals, end up funneling a lot of this money into evangelical organizations and right-wing political organizations.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:09
It's very tantalizing and that's why we see tens of millions of women drawn into these ultimately very manipulative systems where only a very, very small number turn any significant profit.
Doug HenwoodHOST
32:22
And this is deeply wrapped up with right-wing politics, especially the DeVos family and Amway, but they're not alone.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:28
Yep.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:28
That's another thing that I really uncovered in this book, that if you look at the DeVosses, Rich DeVos plays a very important role.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:37
He and Jay Van Andel, of course, started Amway.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:40
And another figure here is Mary Crowley.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:50
She goes on to become the first woman on the board of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
32:54
And what we see is these millionaires, very wealthy individuals, end up funneling a lot of this money into evangelical organizations and right-wing political organizations.
Caitlin BeattyHOST
40:54
I graduated from Calvin University.
Caitlin BeattyHOST
40:56
And so I heard a lot of jokes about Rich DeVos being, his name is literally Rich.
Caitlin BeattyHOST
41:04
Rich is one of the co-founders of Amway, which is the biggest, if not the oldest, multi-level marketing company in the world.
Caitlin BeattyHOST
41:17
It's hard to be in Grand Rapids and not feel the imprint of Amway and the DeVoses.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
42:10
And so when we think about what shapes ordinary women's values, we have to look at multi-level marketing.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
42:17
And I think that's no surprise to women themselves.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
42:20
Looking at how evangelical faith and positive thinking, the Norman Vincent Peale variety come together in the person of Rich DeVos and in the multi-level marketing structure.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
42:35
and in the company of Amway itself, right? This is just an absolutely central story.
Zoe RomeHOST
15:28
Oh my God.
Zoe RomeHOST
15:29
So two of Nutrilite's best sellers, Rich Devos and Jay Van Andel, watched the FDA circus and got pretty nervous, because in 1959 they spun off their own company to try to sell the model itself.
Zoe RomeHOST
15:43
They were like, "We love what you're doing with these vitamins.
Zoe RomeHOST
15:46
Don't love the vitamins, but clearly you can make a shit-ton of money doing this." They named it the American Way.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
50:20
And so they mobilized a pro-capitalist movement Christianity Today was funded by some of these capitalists.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
50:31
And if you fast forward then to the 1970s, you get somebody like Rich DeVos from Amway.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
50:42
Yeah.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
50:42
Yeah.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
52:02
Right.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
52:03
We just have to, like, take all these pieces of American history and and realize that the same guys are behind all of these things.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
52:14
And then it's not just Rich DeVos, but we have Mary Crowley, who runs her own Christian multilevel marketing company or direct sales home interiors.
Kristin Kobes Du MezGUEST
52:27
And then Mary Kay, who takes that model and adds the multilevel marketing to it.

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