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You know, that's like Ronnie Biggs complaining that the police came after him for robbing a train, you know.

Um, they did come after him, it seems with good reason, and found that he was running what they called, he and his co-founders were running what they called a, uh, in effect, a money laundering operation.

'Cause they were essentially allowing anybody to come onto their platform, do their trading without any checks, and then they misled the authorities about whether they were making those checks.

They, for example, took on people who were from Iran and didn't then decide to ask, "Well, hang on a minute.

Where's your money coming from?" So there was a lot of sanctions-related violations.

Right

... or something.

Yeah.

So for 10 years, you know, I followed a whole food plant-based.

Now that evolved once I, uh, spoke with Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn.

So, you know, I, I, I reached out to him and his association, uh, because of the heart failure thing.

You know, he's a cardiovascular surgeon.

Uh, and of course I followed Rip and started following, you know, all, all you guys, um, you know, Dr. Barnard, Dr. Esselstyn, and Dr. Colin Campbell and all of those people and started reading.

And so I, I sent him an email was telling him what was going on, and you know, Dr. Esselstyn called me, uh, that, the night I sent the email from his home in Cleveland.

Mm.

... actually, no, sometimes that bill does come to you.

And how does it happen that the head of counterterrorism, who from what I'd read I assumed was pretty much full-on Trump loon, um, has declared that Trump's a loon? Um.

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Now, I'm, I'm sure that isn't what you meant, but I mean, the problem seems to be that we're in a phony war where if we are at war with Iran, why are we encouraging them to sell their oil freely-