Rich Powell

Sarah Mihalic is the VP for Energy Transactions at SEBA, which is the Corporate Energy Buyers Association.

This is the group that Rich Powell went to when he left Clear Path.

And I saw them kind of all over the place at National Clean Energy Week.

And I reached out and was like, hey, you know, I know you're making the business case for clean energy and the she called it 40 trillion market cap, like potential right in this economy.

BJ Swarup, a 35-year veteran of the energy industry.

Rich Powell, the CEO of the Corporate Energy Buyers Association.

All right.

For listeners who are jumping in at episode three, here's a quick recap of what we've already covered.

I'm recently retired after spending over 35 years with ExxonMobil.

And I'm Rich Powell.

I'm the CEO of the Corporate Energy Buyers Association.

All right, well, let's get started.

Imagine a world of commerce where no two people were calculating the cost of something the same way or representing their checkbook the same way.

You would have total chaos.

And so part of the whole reset has to be, and you said it, Rich, when you said, you know, the John Doerr quote, you have to measure what matters, okay? The problem with measuring CO2 in a product is you can't.

It's a calculation.