Rich Hill

... that's why I'm comfortable with it

... and here's the other lesson, and this is comes back to when we have the press conference, the what lessons did you learn? Because I can tell you, Dave Roberts, going back to the pulling Rich Hill and that whole thing, if you looked at how he's managed the postseason, it's dramatically different.

It is dramatically different.

So what did you learn? So one of the things that you should have learned, which is the guy on the mound who un- who is showing, no matter what his stuff is, is showing that he can function in that environment, in that environment, in this case, is the postseason environment with the bright lights at Yankee Stadium, with the crowd, with, with the pressure, all of it, who has shown he can function and still has enough stuff, who h- has just gotten two outs and has just retired the guy that he's about to face, that you know that he can function in that environment, that you prioritize the guy who not only b- has uncertainty because of what he's done or not done over the last month, but because of you don't know how he is going to function in that moment.

Anyway.

He's been there every year for what? Close to 10 years at this point.

Ri- right, and it's come a long way from taking out Rich Hill, and now he leaves guys in.

Like, that's how it is.

Yeah.

Have you ever met a pitcher like this, a guy who's such a high-profile guy that is so open as far as talking before starts and things of that nature? Is that unique? Is there anybody else like that? Maybe Dick Mountain?

So unique, Petros.

Rich Hill, when he used to come into the clubhouse on start days, he would, before he got dressed, he would say something to me, but he wouldn't carry on a conversation or talk trash to me.

Dodgers were big-time underdogs.

And it was the – I believe that was the Rich Hill game where they ended up pulling Rich Hill, one of the questionable early Dave Roberts decisions.

Like, Hill was dominating.

That guy was dope, by the way.

Rich Hill was like – Crazy weird dope.

The guy was pitching until he's how old? Like 46.

Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore.

He was pulling his starters all the time.

I remember they pulled Rich Hill one time after he threw like 60 pitches and he had given up one hit in the World Series.

Dave Roberts has changed.

Dave Roberts now actually usually sticks with his starter a little longer than most other managers.

I think there are a lot of organizations in baseball that don't do that.

You think about the Dodgers and the Rays taking Rich Hill and Blake Snell out of these World Series games, and after the words, you just find out that that's the front office scripted the game.

I would guess, and again, this is just an educated guess, I think They had some ideas about how they wanted to use Tully.

And, you know, the third time through and all this stuff.