Ric Finlay

100%.

And I give my hats off to guys like Herm, Herm Harrison, Rick Finlay, And a lot of guys still to this day that I know and I flew with and I had awesome experiences in that environment.

And it's probably because of a lot of those folks that I've mentioned.

But I always felt at the time that it was very hard to maybe break out and go somewhere else.

That's like a real, you're a real statistician.

You sound like Rick Finlay on the Summer of Cricket.

It's like you're doing breakdowns per piece of furniture, like it's a batting average.

I'm