Um, so maybe you can talk through how you met your co-founder and how it all ended up to then where we are today and, and creating Lyse.

Yes, we have, uh, somewhat of a unique founder story, but I think a lot of people, you know, they meet their founders in, in university, they meet them in work.

Um, but I have been very fortunate to be connected with my co-founder from when we were in high school, so we met when we were 15, and you know, that relationship has, has only blossomed since, I guess that's probably 17 years ago now.

Um, so we are-- you know, our business had started as a school science project, and it's not something that we ever anticipated would, uh, grow into something of this size.

Something that we were both affected by at a young age was tinnitus, or the ringing you get in your ears from overexposure to loud noise, and we did a school science project all around hearing damage and how this, uh, impacts people.

And we spoke with over 1,000 people at the time to understand where they had gotten their tinnitus from, what they were doing for it, and we developed a sound therapy that you could listen to that would help to alleviate the, the symptoms of your tinnitus.

And it was from bringing this to the, uh, young scientist competition here in Ireland and talking to all of these people in person that we realized this was a much bigger problem than we ever realized that it was for us.

It's just, just, just how, how did, did you get through that? And you meant SOSV and, and, and all those guys, they are, they're, they're great and, and really believing in, in those early, um, stories, but maybe more the, the, the people that didn't want to partner with you, what did you learn from that, um, that you can maybe also, also share here?