How did that set up the problems that we are seeing today?

So in the latter part of the 19th century, early 20th century, the United States had all of this undeveloped desert land, and they wanted to get a lot of people to move there.

Well, a great way to get a lot of smart, hardworking people to move to the desert is to make it a race, and to tell people, "Run as fast as you can into the desert, and if you win the race, you get the most valuable resource you can own in the desert.

You get water.

So run to the water." So people ran, and the first people who grabbed the water- got superior priority to anybody who came after them.

Well, that meant a lot of people were moving to California, and California started gobbling up the river.

So all of the other basin states said, "Well, we don't want this rule to govern," so we negotiated the Colorado River Compact that basically split the river between the upper basin and the lower basin.

Hmm.

What were the laws? How did we get? Because I thought this was a fascinating explanation of how Arizona was settled and became a state and how they got people to come here.

Most water law in much of the world in the Eastern United States is governed by who owns land next to the river.

But that didn't make a lot of sense for the Western United States because a lot of the people who were moving out here in the 19th century wanted to mine.

So they wanted to own water rights that they could move to the ore body.

Additionally, the federal government had all of this desert land and they wanted to get people to move there and settle it.

Well, a great way to get a bunch of hardworking people to move to and invest in a desert is to turn it into a race and promise people if you run as fast as you can into the middle of the desert and grab the water, you'll own the most valuable resource you can possibly own in the desert.

And it is.

And it worked.

Does that add to the fear factor with data centers and some of these others? Is there a reality in that fear? Or do you think that the data centers can actually be water neutral if they're forced to do it?

I think the data center conversation is really interesting because a lot of the opposition to data centers has pushed that industry to be very water efficient.

They know that there's public pushback.

And so most of the data centers that are coming into Arizona don't use evaporative cooling.

They use a very water efficient approach to cooling.

So they don't directly consume very much water.

Now, to get that water efficient, they have to be pretty energy intensive.

with the water recycling.

Time to get out of

the continent? Yeah.

Wow.

That wasn't bad.

That was bad.

Yeah.

Let's move halfway across the globe.

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