Yeah, will you tell that story? Because that was really, on a lot of levels, like a really interesting thing that

happened.

Even before that, just to kind of address what you initially said.

My motivation for making the tools, it comes from the, and you know this very well, in the beginning when we first started painting graffiti, uh there that the the need to kind of like do things yourself and improvise and almost kind of like do like early like like uh like rudimentary hacking like making your own inventing inventing tools to do things that tools that didn't exist for whether that was something as simple as like kind of making your own fat caps or like mod like finding caps that you could like you know, melt or poke holes in to make bigger.

Mixing your own colors, you know, like getting the WD-40 things with the straw, like freezing one can and then letting the pressure out of the other one squirt paint into the other can to mix your own colors.

Things for, you know, stealing and shoplifting, making tools to make, you know, get the most, get the most.

Yeah, you possibly can.

it's the ultimate punk move to line somebody and not leave your name.