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... looking for adders, which is not when you should be looking.

One day we started finding a lot of great crested newts in a local woodland, which they're an endangered species of newt.

They're the rarest species of newt in the UK, and they are protected by law.

So we thought we should probably be reporting these somewhere, and then that led us to find ARC, which is the Amphibian-Reptile Conservation Trust.

We phoned them, we emailed them, and I started off as a, somehow got involved volunteering for them.

It was all a very quick process, but I started off helping out at, at some stalls in things like village fetes, showing the local people grass snakes and things like smooth snakes in person to educate people.

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