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And that really was the journey back into the heart of God in different ways where we felt like we had run from him.

Welcome to Life With God, a Renovare podcast.

I'm Nathan Foster, and for more than a decade I've been hosting this podcast seeking unhurried and thoughtful conversations about interactive life with God.

I'm after the sort of conversations that leave you feeling more alive, more human, and more open to the beauty and expanse of God's goodness.

You're welcome.

[gentle music] And that was Joshua Luke Smith talking about his new book titled This Is the Main Event: Discovering the Life You Long For in the Life You Have.

You can find out more about Joshua and his book on his website, joshualukesmith.com. I'm Nathan Foster, and you've been listening to Life With God, a Renovare podcast.

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You're always, I think, bringing people into your your concept of what what is good so i i just think it's about adjusting that slightly but yeah yeah and and the new ideas you've got the world attention or world would be to my mind evangelistic in the sense that they are sharing what is truly good yeah I hope so.

Yes, I remember having this argument with Renovare saying, surely if this stuff is so good, shouldn't we be discipling the whole world, not just the church? I mean, if this is really good news, I mean, and that's behind rebranding my soul place as the home of non-religious spirituality.

I know that won't turn on any Christians.

But if 95% of people don't go to church, those are the people I'm quite interested in attracting with the words of Jesus.

And so that's what we do.

So I also get a chance to volunteer and serve on Renovare's ministry team.

And Renovare is a nonprofit ministry that helps churches and people experience ministry.

spiritual formation and transformation into Christlikeness.

And so, I've been a part of that ministry for the last 13, 14 years.

Or just kind of feeling abandoned.

Like, is there anyone there? Like, does anyone see like what I'm trying to do? And the whole experience was kind of like...

So, there's a quote that really got my attention when I was in college and it was from actually one of the founders of Renovare named Dallas Willard.

I appreciate it.

And that was Jonathan R. Bailey talking about his book, Dwelling in Christ, which just so happens to be the first book in this season of the Renovare Book Club.

You can find out more information on our website at renovare.org book club.

You can learn more about John, his book, writing, and newsletter on his website at jonathanrbailey.com jonathanrbailey.com Also, if you're not familiar with the Bible app Dwell that John co-founded, it's definitely worth checking out.