And how was the journey of finding like the courses and like the support in it? Easy?

Yeah.

It was, it's been a really interesting journey.

So it's something that I am constantly learning more about because it's kind of thing there that, like I said, it was doing it before.

And I keep emphasizing this point on purpose.

I was doing it before and I thought I knew what I was doing.

And I remember once I started training in it.

Yeah.