Reid technique

There's, there's a few different methodologies that people utilize to do investigations and do interrogations in particular.

There was the John Reid method at the time, which is, is kind of like a direct accusation, which a lot of law enforcement used.

Then there was the Wiklander Zulawski process, which is more of storytelling, more rationalization, i.e., you know, you'd come into a room and you'd, you'd be the person's real, like, friend.

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