Reginald Bibby

That's right.

About 25 years ago, a Canadian sociologist named Reginald Bibby published a book called Restless Gods: The Renaissance of Religion in Canada.

And I think the reason that Ryan may be writing about this now is that there's a whole lot of talk here in the United States about how there's a revival going on or a renewal in interest in religion, and he points to the Canadian, Canadian experience kind of as an object lesson in the dangers of predicting.

Uh, that renaissance in Canada, for example, never occurred, and Bibby's thesis fell victim to a rookie mistake that sociologists and journalists often make, and that is that they try to predict the future.

The moral of the story is stick to the facts, reporting and not prediction.

Or as Yogi Berra famously said, "Predictions are dangerous, especially predictions about the future."

Hmm.

Uh, in the 1980s, shortly after I had begun my ministry at Rexdale, Reginald Bibby, who was a Canadian sociologist at that time-

Mm

... along with Don Prystowsky, who was vice president of World Vision at that time-