Redeemed Zoomer

So we got a new one dropping tomorrow.

It's an episode I did responding to Redeemed Zoomer, a very popular y- uh, Protestant YouTube apologist, Protestant apologist on YouTube.

And he makes an argument that Jesus's words in John 6 actually disprove transubstantiation, the fancy theological term that describes what we believe about the Eucharist turning into Jesus's body and blood, from bread to his body and blood.

And so I take up that challenge and offer some thoughts in response to show why that challenge does not succeed, and it in fact fails, and that we can read, getting back to what we were talking about earlier, Jesus's words in John 6, "Eat my flesh and drink my blood," with a realistic understanding in a way that justifies the Catholic understanding of transubstantiation.

And that's an example of a kind of Whiggish history.

That's the history that Redeemed Zoomer is reading.

Yeah.

It's like, I want to get Zoomer on the phone and say, Frank Reynolds is not coming to do any more documentaries about the BC USA.

So as much as Rome wants to try to say that that...

It ought not to exist, and apparently Redeemed Zoomer wants to say that ought not to exist.

It must exist for Galatians 1 to stand and for all the other things to stand.

So the church is, this is part of the essential question that leads to this.

If you lose that, then we can start questioning, right? Whether or not you're actually church or not.

If you don't have those two things, then it's a legitimate question.

Now I do appreciate redeemed Zoomer, like his, his desire to fight and to try to win back his denomination from that stuff, I think is, I think at least can be admired in one respect.

Like he wants – he does not want them to be off the deep end on this stuff.

She is, by the way, a PCUSA pastor.

That's Redeemed Zoomer's denomination.

Don't forget that this denomination, the PCUSA, cannot discipline these kinds of rogue, unbelieving heretics that don't believe the Word of God.

She's offended that God would send his own son because that's male language.

Uh, I wasn't quite sure how to do that, but I, I kne- I knew I needed to learn.

Round about that time, I became familiar with this movement called Operation Reconquista, which was started by this fellow named Redeemed Zoomer, Richard Ackerman, who even in, even that point in twenty twenty three already had, like, close to a hundred thousand followers on YouTube.

And if, you know, everything we've been talking about so far in this interview, you, you can kind of realize I was very much where Redeemed Zoomer was thirty years ago, but without the internet.

Everything that he was, is trying to do, w- w- all the questions he's asking were questions I was asking when I was his age.

Why was the Presbyterian boarding school that I went to in New Jersey unidentifiable, unrecognizable as a Presbyterian school? How is it that everyone who graduated it, from it didn't know it was still owned and operated by the Presbyterian Church? How was it that you could graduate Yale College and other than singing one Christian hymn at the freshman assembly, not have any connection or, or understanding of its Congregationalist Puritan heritage? How is it that the mainline Episcopal Church was going so far afield as to start to think that same-sex behavior was okay? So I was asking those questions thirty years ago.

Redeemed Zoomer comes along and, you know, in, in the, in twenty twenty three and starts asking these questions, but he's asking them at scale.

And he's got this whole generation who's starting to ask these questions as well, as well.

So I started to...

We don't need two.

So I agree with Redeemed Zoomer that you should not break away from Christ's church.

But if your church doesn't claim to be infallible, and the governing body has already universally allowed blue-haired, pro-abortion, pro-LGBT, pro-polyamory pastrixes, then I got news for you.

The church you're defending can't possibly be Christ's one universal church.

If you're not an Anglican, then you're the schismatic.

The redeemed zoomer is the schismatic.

I am the true Anglican.

Take that, Richard.

I'm encouraged by what the OPC has recently done.

The OPC was attacked vehemently by Redeemed Zoomer and so forth online, calling Machen a coward and conservative churches retreatists and so forth.

And the moderator at the OPC has gone on full defensive and attack mode in recent months, and I'm proud of him.

I think he's done some awesome things, and he has really helped to defend the honor and the reputation of the OPC in a time when it was under attack.