I am so excited to learn from you.

I remember being, um, an undergraduate.

I, I studied at, at Brigham Young University, and I took an Old Testament class with Don Parry.

And for my final paper, I wrote a paper on helpmeet because I thought, "I don't actually know what helpmeet means.

Like, what is it?" It, it feels confusing to me in English.

So I wrote this paper, I don't know, 10, 15 pages on it, and I remember getting to the end and thinking, "I still don't actually know what helpmeet means," 'cause I went and did, like, Old English and looked at all the, all the possible things it could mean in English, because I didn't have Hebrew yet.

So when it came time to write my PhD dissertation, this sort of was still in the back of my mind, and I started...

Okay.

What do you want to do next?

At this point, I would like to look a little bit more at Eve in particular.

So we're looking at the woman in the garden.

This is what I wrote my dissertation on.

I wrote my dissertation just on two words, help meet.

Except I looked at the Hebrew.

So I wrote 200 some pages on two words.

Who, again, would want to do that? Right.

Okay.

A liminal space, liminal, comes from the Latin meaning threshold.

It's an in-between place.

If I'm standing on the threshold of the door, I'm neither in the room nor out of the room.

I'm in between.

A liminal space is any place that's in between.

So, for instance, the birth canal.

He doesn't want to see you.