Rebecca Trelease

Stacey and Adam from The Block.

Rebecca Trelease, who's both an academic and also was a participant in The Bachelor.

So those are sort of the main, I think, on-screen people.

And then there's a bunch of people who are more behind the scenes.

But I d- I do think it is probably harder to make fake than we might imagine.

We talked to, um, Dr. Rebecca Trelease.

She studies reality television.

But way back when, she was on The Bachelor, so she was a participant, right? Being, you know, selected by the bachelor or, or not.

I have definitely gone through a journey as to how I felt [laughs] about being on a reality show.

Dr. Rebecca Trelease is one of the first people I reached out to when I embarked on this project.

She's one of the few academics in this country focusing deeply on reality TV as part of our collective popular culture.

Well, ladies, here's another chance to get closer to Jordan with this.