Ray McCauley

I always give that example.

Pastor Ray, the last time he was with us at, uh, at, uh, Orlando Stadium, when he came to our, our event there, the outreach Good Friday several years ago, he was not well that year.

I remember very well.

I remember.

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I'd made an altar call and lots of people, I think that year we had like 3,000 people who responded to the altar call.

So, you know, Pastor Ray is my dad.

I don't want to have an altar call better than his.

What a preacher she She is.

I remember one time Terry was getting ready for the first time to go speak for Pastor Ray McCauley in South Africa.

Well, Pastor Ray, it was going to be at a women's meeting that they were having there.

And Pastor Ray had never heard Terry speak.

And Pastor Ray McCauley and Jerry Savelle are good friends.

So he asked Jerry Savelle...

He said, have you heard Terry Pearson speak? And Jerry said, yes, I have.

Before Rhema Tulsa, Oklahoma had their building.

Pastor Ray McCauley built Rhema Bible Church here in Johannesburg.

And when they had opening service, they had all the Ramah pastors and Brother Hagen and Pastor Hagen Jr., they had them over for like opening service.

And they were so impressed that they actually saw that building, saw that structure, took it and moved it, you know, visionary to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and actually built it.

I wouldn't say a copy, but very similar to what Pastor Ray McCauley has built here in Johannesburg.

So back then in 1996, while I was wiping this pulpit and the Lord spoke to me, little I didn't know that this was just me or a dream.

But inside, in the depths of my heart, I knew God was speaking to me.

I remember my many trips to Ramah, Ramah College.

Pastor Ray, the late Ray McCauley.

He passed on last year, I think.

Every year, I would go to Ray's church there.

And I would take a team and drive there.

I don't know whether for seven years, non-stop, right there.

And then before they used it, then he hired it.

Then there was a camp.

... and submit fully to it.

So if I'm saying I'm submitting to, to the leadership of Pastor Ray McCauley, for example, I need to do it-

Shout out

... wholeheartedly.