Ray Luzier

I mean, Satchel was in Atomic Punks, too.

Uh, you know, what happened was Dave came and took Bart, right? Bart and Dave ended up having a disagreement about finances, so Dave got rid of him, came back and got the new guy we got, which his name was Brian Young, and took him and r- our drummer in Metal Shop, Ray Luzier, to go on tour with him, and they went and did the Sam and Dave tour.

Right.

Ah.

Right.

Right.

And I'll tell you something, fast-forward 10 years to this year, 2026, I get a call from my buddy Ray Luzier, and he says, "Hey, Billy is thinking about doing a tribute record as a tribute to the 40th anniversary of the Eat 'Em and Smile record.

He wants to know if you wanna be involved in it.

We talked about doing an F5 record back around 2005 or '07 or something.

[laughs] So he and I have been friends for a long time, and he built a really great record label, has done a lot of good stuff for, um, you know, George Lynch, Michael Sweet, Todd La Torre of Queensryche, uh, Doug Pinnick, you know, just, Ray Luzier.

You know, he's just, he's just put out cool records.

And, you know, I think probably when you and I were, you know, coming up, you know, I know here in America, you know, like Derek St. Holmes and Brad Whitford, Whitford St. Holmes.

So that was a huge influence on me.

And then through music school, meeting and seeing players like Ray Luzier, who's now with Korn, but spent years playing with David Lee Roth and all these other people.

And, you know, so meeting Ray was a big deal for me because he really kind of opened my eyes to how you could play with conviction.

Like every note mattered.

So you kind of got to know your gig.

Um, but you know, somebody will know, not all like, you know, uh, The Jay Weinberg and Slipknot putting on a crazy show, appropriate for that band.

Ray Luzier with Korn flipping his sticks and making crazy faces, perfectly appropriate for that band.

Gig by gig depends on how much you can stick your face out there and how much you should hang back.

The percentage of people who've had paranormal or unexplained encounters is very high." She added that she h- often has people fascinated with her story l- and many like to share their spooky encounters with her.

Her new single, Seven Sins, featuring Ray Luzier, [laughs] is out now, of course, hit that subscribe button, and her debut album, Good Attendance at Sunday School, came out on-

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... and describing her as powerful stuff.

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Brocard's follow-up single, Love Me Till I'm Beautiful, featured drums by Korn's Ray Luzier.

Ray produced, uh, or excuse me, praised Brocard's unique vocal style.

And in today's conversation, we have a really interesting chat about the concept of building trust with an artist and becoming someone that bands want to continue to work with.

In Chris's case, he got a gig where he was able to work with Ray Luzier from Korn.

And from that opportunity, he impressed ray enough that you know they introduced someone new to the mix from the corn camp and then it snowballed from there and even then after working on multiple projects he was kind of positioned as the engineer on a few different records and eventually he got a promotion to being their producer and so in this episode we talk a lot about that idea of slowly building trust with people but also, yeah, just earning that trust so that people give you more creative freedom.

And you'll hear Chris talk about the things that you gain when you finally get to go from being an engineer to a producer and the creative liberties that come along with that.

How did that relationship with Korn start or the opportunity to get to work with them?

Okay, I'll try to keep this as brief as possible.

Ray Luzier, I met Ray Luzier through George Lynch and Doug Pinnock.

They formed this band called KXM.

and produced, and it's currently being mixed right now by Chris Collier, who he's, you might know him from doing the last few Whitesnake records and Last in Line.

He did all the KXM records, you know, the, yeah, the Doug Pinnock, George Lynch, Ray Luzier.

He did, yeah, he did all those.

And so I just yesterday or the day before heard like nine of the 13 songs.