Ray C Schrock

And it certainly appears to have been so in in Wiles case.

What was leading up to that, by the way, would there had already been a number of big name higher departures, there's a whole list of them, but one who really stands out was restructuring specialist Ray Schrock, who moved over to Latham & Watkins.

That was a really big move.

I mean, there's been big moves after big moves, you know, there's the whole Wachtell exits and now Mike Aiello, but Ray Schrock was definitely in that category.

And he is at the core of one of Weill's biggest marquee practices, bankruptcy.

So, you know, that's really key.