My council

member, they come to our events.

They've really stuck out for us a bunch of times and took care of us.

But it turns out people often recognize the street workers for government agencies as their most trusted people.

Health care workers turn up huge levels of support for the public.

People don't actually think of them as government employees.

So none of the credit for that goes to the government.

Talk a little bit more about what you're hoping to accomplish and the work that you already have done at the foundation, but the key takeaways you want from your listeners at Governance Matters and our listeners here at Management Matters to take away from today's episode.

Can you talk a little bit about if it is that confusing and some people don't know where to reach out or how they're represented, what effect that has on just trust in the system around them?

Trust at the local level, James Christian, is a really complicated thing to measure.

If you ask people, do you have a confidence in your public officials? The answer is no.

Absolutely.

Generically.

It doesn't matter who it is.

Do you have trust in the person who represents you, like a council member? And this should remind you of people who hate Congress but love their member of Congress, which we've talked about for generations.

Talk a little bit more about what you're hoping to accomplish and the work that you already have done at the foundation, but the key takeaways you want from your listeners at Governance Matters and our listeners here at Management Matters to take away from today's episode.