Rana Hussain

Not yet.

Um, we, you did an amazing episode, Em, and we also had Rana Hussain on-

Yeah

... to talk about belonging.

We have broadcaster, writer, founder of Good Humour.

Can you please welcome, it's Rana Hussain.

Yay.

Thanks for doing this.

I can grant you any wish for your career.

Yeah.

Rana Hussain, what's the wish?

I'm sorry I give long answers, but you're just going to get them anyway.

And, and, and you are gonna get that in all facets of life.

It's just to, just to sort of touch on something, um, and, and I think we were, we were chatting about this, what, what Rana Hussain wrote in The Guardian today about, um, about the take- how did, how did...

And, and she sort of reframed the way I've been looking at this issue in a way, and I think she did it in a really good way about she said something along the lines of if she was speaking to Sydney or to the CEO, what would he actually have said that these play- and, and if no charges were laid, what would he actually say to her that these players, why they have been stood down? And would it be because there's allegations of drugs? Would it be because it's a workplace issue and they've disrespected their female colleagues? Would it be simply because they've broken curfew and been unprofessional? And really what she articulated well was that we- we've gotta be having conversations that go beyond that, and that, um, and, and into really murky areas of something that may not have met the definition of a crime but does meet the definition of treating women like shit.

And I think that that's something that, um, Anna Krien wrote about in Night Games.