But what's the longest rock concert you've ever attended?

So it's a hard question to answer because are we talking rock festival that goes on for days? Or are we just talking like a one-off show? Because it's two very different things.

Good addendum here, hit me with both.

Well, I would say like Shiprock that I hosted, it was a week, it's seven days on a boat, that's a long, and every day from 10 in the morning till three in the morning, there's concerts going.

That's crazy long, or a day festival.

I host this thing called the M3 Rock Festival, and it would be from noon, or no, let's say 11 in the morning till 10, 11 at night, so 12 hours of a show.

But so once you get past that, if you're just talking about a band, like one band doing one show, probably be like two and a half, three hours.

Yeah, that's why it

were all-ages parties.

Yes, I think I got 18 to get in at that point.

We moved, transitioned to the 18 to get in parties.

House music? House music.

So we started, I was loving dance music at that time and club music.

And what time period is this? Like, where are we right now? 18, 88, 87, 88.

What's the club scene like? What's the club scene? Wild.

And then this leads you to a career in radio.

This is a former lover- Uh-huh ... that was insecure of me interviewing the porn stars.

Oh, well, that's why he's ...

Isn't that part of the reason why he's a former lover, though?

Mm-hmm

... that you can't even...

And, like, is this male sex workers or female sex workers, or both? Just anyone who's had a genital?

They see a similarity.

For about a year ...

No, maybe it's, like, two or three months, me and a kid that I was friends with, like, when e- when my old radio show was doing somewhat well, and that was on MTV and VH1, they hired us to do, like, come up with ideas for reality shows, and then they would pitch them to the networks.

And they said no to every idea we had, but within the next three years-Half of them showed up.

Like, they told us no, and then I saw them a few years later, so they just stole the idea.

That's crazy.

Fucking annoying as shit.

But, uh, just a...

[laughs]

Yeah.

My, my metal was very different, you go back to my childhood.

So it wasn't...

You know, Judas Priest now seems like light music compared to what's out now.

I really-

Didn't we once have a conversation, like, while the other two porn stars were talking to each other, we're just giving each other the answers?