Ralph Drollinger

It's about what God wants you to do on tax policy, on foreign policy, on civil liberties, on immigration, and they publish their Bible studies online, so you can see them yourself.

I'll give you the, the link in the book, so you can, you can sort of see what this, this extreme radical pastor, Ralph Drollinger, is telling members of Trump's cabinet twice a week what to do with their power.

Mm.

And God turns out to be a really radical conservative who hates regulation and hates taxes and, uh, certainly is a, is a Christian Zionist as well and, and believes that we should offer unquestioning support to anything Israel does.

The, the curator of the American Museum of History said religion wasn't just part of January 6th.

It was the whole story of relig-- These were the shock troops.

Donald Trump could not have done this without these pastors and their thousands and thousands of followers who showed up just full of religious fervor, which doesn't just happen spontaneously.

There was all of this choreography, and, you know, the committee had the evidence.

I talk about all this stuff you don't see on the public tour of the United States Capitol that's happening behind closed doors and behind the scenes.

I mean, these shady ministries that exist that are embedded in almost official status within the Capitol, folks like Ralph Drollinger and others, part and parcel of the Christian nationalist movement and the Republican Party.

This is powerful stuff.

And they have a very specific agenda.

So we've got to take it much more seriously.

Can you give me, without giving away your book, of course, can you give me a small taste of this shadow theocracy that you're talking about? Give me an example of what's going on behind the scenes that we just don't see.

Yeah, well, I mentioned Ralph Drollinger.

Most people have no idea who he is.