What's the most interesting from a putting perspective? Is it the speed of the greens, or is it the slope of the greens? Like, or is it the combination of both?

Yeah, it's a combination of both.

You know, the wind i- wi-wind's another factor for sure, right? So, you know, show up on Sunday, f-first thing you notice is, wow, these greens are, are super slopey, right? When I say that there's not a lot of green space that's under 3% slope, so it's just super slopey.

When the greens were built, golf course is amazing.

When the greens were built, green speeds, you know, average about six on stimp, right? Actually, it wasn't a stimp meter back then, so they're estimating.

So they're, they, they were built for, you know, very, very slow, slow greens, slow conditions.

As agronomy's caught up and green speeds have picked up, the, the, the green complexes have stayed the same, which is a, a wicked defense of, uh, you know, golf courses.

What did you guys figure out in practice rounds? Was it like, if it's a straight putt but the wind is blowing left to right, I gotta aim two inches outside the hole? Or did you, did you figure anything out like that?