Rafe Cameron

Yeah, exactly.

That you caught it with Rafe.

and Sarah I feel like you just really have beef with Rafe in particular

always how did you turn

yeah it just is there it's just a part of it uh how did you tap into that did you have like a voodoo doll of all of your stepkids Rafe in particular just stop it

to be honest like um he the writing of the show is like, I always have this great plan and he's always like doing something completely out of pocket that like blows it up.

That's like so extreme.

I like, you know, when you like want it too bad, you can't show up.

Then I predicted, and this was more of a wish fulfillment thing, I think.

I said, I need Key and Rafe to get together.

I need it to happen.

I said, I think at one point I said, just make out a little

I went on for

a

bit of time in that podcast talking about, mainly about Rafe, honestly.

Well, yeah.

He's good looking, don't get me wrong, but watching this show, he plays like an ultimate bad boy.

Like, we're in season three, and Rafe is a serial killer.

Rafe has killed so many people, and he's just like, whatever, gotta keep it moving.

I'm doing this for the family, Dad.

Dad, I stepped up.

Aren't you proud of me? That's all Rafe says is he wants his, like, daddy's attention at all times.

But he's a great actor.

You know, when you watch these teen dramas, typically there are a few that will stand out to you.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it, it was kind of a weird dynamic for the longest time 'cause Rafe is always on his own.

Of course.

And the Pogues are out on their journey.

So, you know, the end of Season 4, we have, you know, the unfortunate death that happens, and then Rafe is stuck with the Pogues.

As John B., you're the narrator.

Was it extra emotional for you to kinda, this is the final, this is the end?

consistency is key.

When there's highs and lows, Cleo's like, Who would be the worst partner? Probably Rafe.

Yeah.

Can't wait to see the comments about that.