Rachel Donald

And then for the rest of the conference, everyone proceeded to mix me and the other Northern woman up with each other.

So hi, Rachel.

Rachel's my, Rachel Donald's my Northern twin.

But yeah, when we were talking a couple of weeks ago about this episode, we talked about the training contract and those early years in law and those early days in law.

And I think I said to you, I see quite a lot of people in therapy who really struggle in those early days, early years, and lots of them then go on to stay in law and have fantastic careers.

And it's worse than snake oil.

I, I just wanna, like, on the English thing, I mean, one of the most remarkable things that happened in this sort of who's a doomer, um, question was, um, Rachel Donald was interviewing, um, Hannah Ritchie.

And they were talking about doomers.

And so Rachel Maddow's, you know, very sharp, and she said, "Tell me someone who's a doomer.

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I read a great quote recently from a journalist called Rachel Donald, and she, she said, "Our brains are wired for finding bananas with friends." And I, I want to ask you if that's true.

It is true.

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