R. Keith Sawyer

My guest today is Professor Manu Kapur, and he studies something he calls productive failure.

This is the Science of Learning Podcast, and I'm Keith Sawyer.

And today we're going to learn about how exploring often leads to failure.

And if you explore first and make a lot of mistakes before you get to the right answer, that often results in deeper learning and better learning.

Well, so we're nearing the end of our time.

This is the Science of Learning podcast.

And I am Keith Sawyer and Manu Kapur.

I'll give you the last word.

Today we're going to explore what the future of learning looks like in the age of artificial intelligence.

This is the Science of Learning Podcast, and I'm Keith Sawyer, and my guest today is Dr. Yasmin Kafayi.

Dr. Kafayi, welcome to the Science of Learning.

Thank you very much, Keith, for having me.

I mean, we didn't think that computers were machines for children, but how were we proven wrong? I mean, first with video games and now with social media, they are interfacing, I mean, directly with all these technologies.

Oh, absolutely.

Well, this is the Science of Learning podcast, and I am Keith Sawyer.

And what's exciting about this conversation, I think, is that we're giving children the power, and it's children that are in control of the machines.

Can't wait for that one.

don't miss last week's episode with Gordon Reid and the recent shows I've got Keith Sawyer, Dr. Keith Sawyer coming up soon, professor researcher in creativity in the States talking about his book Learning to See which I have not shown up about since I read it, it's incredible really does take you back inside the art school mentality and how would the world's leading art and design tutors enable their students to see and it really gets it back to kind of iteration and experimentation and not being a perfectionist it's really good stuff if you know if like me you're nearly 20 years in the game and you tend to fall into patterns at times it's a great reminder so kick up the arse so there you have it um let's get to this week's show so i'm going to read you a piece from the creativity diary which you can visit at thecreativecondition.com diary You can also access my coaching information there, my story programs.

You know, I help people to write books.

I'm currently working with Pablo Honey on his incredible book, In Between.