QuinStreet

You just need to be good enough at it to get the job and keep the job.

If you can get a sales job, and this is something that I've done with people at SurveyMonkey and in other roles, where salespeople were interested in seo they did their sales job and then they came and dabbled in seo and if they were good enough they and they liked it they could stay in seo so that is if you're trying to get into a big brand if you're trying to build a brand in consulting that i think is easiest thing to do now what i would say is i kind of did the same thing myself my first job was in sales and that's how i learned seo so i worked at a company called quinn street They're still around.

They do affiliate marketing.

My job was business development.

My job was doing sales and working with websites and trying to get them to sell their leads to Quinn Street.

From there, the people I worked with were driving traffic.

So I had them teach me.

And then from there, I was fortunate in going into SurveyMonkey.

But, you know, they can go to one of our partners and find that.

I think it really, you know, there's Quinn Street with Insure.com. There's Qualphone with MedicareHarbor.com. There's lead scores of MedicareShopper.ai. We got SeniorGuide.net. There's so many sites out there.

But what it all boils down to is just, as a consumer, knowing the questions to ask.

And really, that is number one, understanding the market and who's in your market.