purpose

That's key.

Purpose.

Purpose will give you happiness.

You see, we live in a country where they think that purpose, where they think that happiness is pleasure.

We know that purpose is above all of this, serving God.

What does it mean to keep learning, leading, and finding purpose in a life that perhaps you feel is still unfinished? Bob Carter has spent more than four decades in philanthropy and is chairman of Carter, a global philanthropic consulting firm.

You may know about his work as chair of AFP or perhaps his earlier work with institutions around the country and around the world, serving both as counsel and as a board member or board chair.

His book, Unfinished Lessons in Recovery, Leadership, Philanthropy and Purpose, which is due to come out shortly, draws on his both his professional career and his experience in recovery.

Earlier, Bob and I spoke about the experiences that shaped his new book, what recovery has taught him about leadership and listening, and why he believes why none of us should ever arrive at an unfinished version of ourselves, but in fact continue to be learning throughout our lives.

Here is that conversation.

But I, I miss those.

I miss that sense of like, Purpose and belonging and knowing like where I slotted into the family because of, because of what we did, you know, together as a family.

So I think that was a big, a big part of this book.

So I was like, oh, you know, this is, this is adding structure back into the family that we've lost culturally.