Puppet

When you're going to bigger companies, that still doesn't work because the person that's developing the code might be in a completely different country and time zone than you, and you are making sure that the platform is working.

This is the very interesting thing, right? By enabling developers, we have got ourselves in a very developer-like issue, which is that, uh, as you can see in people like Adam Jacob, the people at Pu- that were working at Puppet Labs, and a lot of people that have been talking and shouting off the rooftops about infrastructure of code, they all have this problem now that infrastructure as code have become slash code in a way because this code has not been maintained for five, 10 years, and it shows its age.

It shows that it starts to have cracks.

It starts to not work well.