Pueblo Revolt

Like, I think about all of the Indigenous futurism I have interacted with, and a lot of it is art that is, you know, we obviously can't do a podcast on, on, or it would be hard, on art.

But I love to, you know, look at things by Virgil Ortiz and his whole universe that he's created around the Pueblo Revolt, um, because, um, it's such a central point in our history, and it, it echoes throughout, um, all of the Pueblos all of the time.

I mean, it, it is not in the past for us.

It is current.

The people speak a language radically different from that of the Zuni, but, with the exception of that of the inhabitants of Hano, closely allied to that of the Utes.

The people of Hano are Tiwans, whose ancestors moved from the Rio Grande to Tuseyan during the great Pueblo Revolt against Spanish authority in 1680 to 1696.

Between the Little Colorado and the Rio San Juan there is a vast system of plateaus, mesas, and buttes, volcanic mountains, volcanic cones, and volcanic cinder cones.

Some of the plateaus are forest-clad and have perennial waters and are gemmed with lakelets.

The people speak a language radically different from that of the Zuni, but with the exception of that of the inhabitants of Hano, closely allied to that of the Utes.

The people of Hano are Tiwans, whose ancestors moved from the Rio Grande to Tuseon during the great Pueblo revolt against Spanish authority in 1680 to 1696.

Between the Little Colorado and the Rio San Juan there is a vast system of plateaus, mesas, and buttes, volcanic mountains, volcanic cones, and volcanic cinder cones.

Some of the plateaus are forest-clad and have perennial waters and are gemmed with lakelets.

The people speak a language radically different from that of the Zuni, but with the exception of that of the inhabitants of Hano, closely allied to that of the Utes.

The people of Hano are Tiwans, whose ancestors moved from the Rio Grande to Tusayan during the great Pueblo revolt against Spanish authority in 1680 to 1696.

Between the Little Colorado and the Rio San Juan, there is a vast system of plateaus, mesas, and buttes, volcanic mountains, volcanic cones, and volcanic cinder cones.

Some of the plateaus are forest-clad and have perennial waters and are gemmed with lakelets.

Uh, it's hard-fought though, um, and they established some reforms to try to, uh, have better relations with the native peoples to take care of them more, uh, not exploit them in the ways they had been, uh, treated before in the past.

Now, like the Pueblo Revolt, another crisis will happen far from British North America, but will have resounding, you know, measures close to the heart of the colonist.

Uh, it will be in the establishment of another concern of religious contests.

Uh, Charles II, who was a Protestant and head of the, uh, England in sixteen eighty-five, will die.

It's very important.

New Mexico has a long tradition of resistance going back to the Pueblo Revolt in 1680, and we're just carrying that on today.

I was going to ask if you're from around here, but probably not, huh?

No, we just come in peace to help Earth.

The people speak a language radically different from that of the Zuni, but with the exception of that of the inhabitants of Hano, closely allied to that of the Utes.

The people of Hano are Tiwans, whose ancestors moved from the Rio Grande to Tusayan during the great Pueblo revolt against Spanish authority in 1680 to 1696.

Between the Little Colorado and the Rio San Juan, there is a vast system of plateaus, mesas, and buttes, volcanic mountains, volcanic cones, and volcanic cinder cones.

Some of the plateaus are forest-clad and have perennial waters and are gemmed with lakelets.

Anthuara also notes a historical irony and parallel.

Picard's ancestor participated in the brutal Pueblo Revolt massacre.

Wesley joins the away team on the surface.

He wanders into the village and meets a holy man named La Canta.

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fabulous.

What did you think about the part of the episode where the elder Anthuara tells Picard that one of Picard's ancestors was involved in the Pueblo Revolt and basically... inferred that he kind of has blood on his hands and this would be a good way to rectify that karmic debt.

I thought that was an interesting detail.

After President Trump suggested renaming New Mexico New America, an idea the president repeated during the opening night of the Republican midterm convention in Dallas, Mr. Martinez was sought out as an authority on the history of New Mexico.

And he offered his opinion on the president's proposal in no uncertain terms, saying New Mexico would start another Pueblo revolt.

Mr. Martinez, bienvenido, and thank you for being on Around the Roundhouse.

Muchisimas gracias.

New Mexico is Spanish because Mexico was Spanish.

And what's going on between 1598 is a love-hate relationship between the Pueblos and the Spanish and all these other native groups.

There's a Pueblo revolt in 1680 because they say, enough of you Spanish, we want our religion, we want our languages, we want our culture.

But the Spanish returned 12 years later to enter into an alliance with the Pueblos because it's becoming very violent around here because of all the different peoples wanting access to our limited resources.

That same year, the church was built on this site.

The original adobe church was replaced in 1630 by a larger one, which was destroyed by the Pueblo Indian Revolt of 1680.

Granted, there's going to be some outdated language.

The expelled Spaniards returned in 1693, but were not able to rebuild the church until 1714.