Public housing

Now, moving on, thank you for that.

Moving on, we wanted to ask about the social housing situation.

There's been a lot of, I think Barbara Pocock was raising some alarming statistics about the net increase in social dwellings.

What's going on, Josh? What can we expect to see? Well,

In fact, for most of the time of this Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison government, they didn't even have a housing minister, which is pretty crazy when you think about it, how big this issue is across the country, not even having a dedicated minister of housing.

What we knew when we came into government is we had to turn that around.

We had to have the direct investment in social housing, but we couldn't just invest in what the states were going to do.

We had to go above and beyond.

Um, and that it, it shows up in so many different essays, atlas projects, and so forth.

Um, especially the intersection of, uh, visions of decommodified social housing, that is housing outside market logics that meets individual and community needs with resident, resident governance, um, as key.

Uh, alongside with that of decarbonization and ensuring that, you know, public luxuries and, and, and multifunctional users are included.

Uh, could you talk through some of the ways that, um, social housing, um, fits into the visions of a post-carbon future that some of the different, um, authors in the volume, um, outline?

Yeah.

I mean, I think there's a way to think about housing as perhaps, like, the centerpiece of a post-carbon future in, insofar as, like, it is one of a small handful of things that every human requires to, like, to live at a basic level and to, like, flourish at a perhaps at a higher level.

And I, I mean, the way I think about housing is always, and green social housing in particular, is just deeply indebted to Daniel Aldana Cohen, who obviously is, is featured in the book as, you know, a contributor, but his work is kind of peppered throughout.

Um, and is why in, in many cases why, you know, you can find green and social and green social housing projects in this book in places like Vienna and Bordeaux and Jakarta and Savannah, Georgia, and São Paulo, Brazil, um, and way beyond in Uruguay, uh, as well.

And it shows up in so many different essays, Atlas projects.

and so forth, especially the intersection of visions of decommodified social housing, that is housing outside market logics that meets individual and community needs with resident governance as key, alongside with that of decarbonization and ensuring that public luxuries and multifunctional users are included.

Could you talk through some of the ways that social housing fits into the visions of a post-carbon future that some of the different authors in the volume outline?

Yeah, I mean, I think there's a way to think about housing as perhaps like the centerpiece of a post-carbon future insofar as like it is one of a small handful of things that every human requires to like to live at a basic level and to like flourish at perhaps like a higher level.

And I mean, the way I think about housing is always in green social housing in particular is just deeply indebted to Daniel Adana Cohen, who obviously is featured in the book as a contributor, but his work is kind of peppered throughout and is why in many cases why you can find green and social and green social housing projects in this book in places like California.

Vienna and Bordeaux and Jakarta and Savannah, Georgia and Sao Paulo, Brazil and way beyond in Uruguay as well.

And, you know, I think as part of like, again, to come back to the New Deal again for just a moment, like thinking about what that program did versus perhaps the way Europe responded to both the Great Depression and then kind of the post-war recovery.

And it was about essentially, you know, entrenched commodification.

Um, and that it, it shows up in so many different essays, atlas projects, and so forth.

Um, especially the intersection of, uh, visions of decommodified social housing, that is housing outside market logics that meets individual and community needs with resident, resident governance, um, as key.

Uh, alongside with that of decarbonization and ensuring that public luxuries and, and, and multifunctional users are included.

Uh, could you talk through some of the ways that, um, social housing, um, fits into the visions of a post-carbon future that some of the different, um, authors in the volume, um, outline?

Yeah.

I mean, I think there's a way to think about housing as perhaps like the centerpiece of a post-carbon future in, insofar as like it is one of a small handful of things that every human requires to like, to live at a basic level and to like flourish at perhaps at a higher level.

And I, I mean, the way I think about housing is always, and green social housing in particular, is just deeply indebted to Daniel Aldana Cohen, who obviously is, is featured in the book as, you know, a contributor, but his work is kind of peppered throughout.

Um, and is why in, in many cases why, you know, you can find green and social and green social housing projects in this book in places like Vienna and Bordeaux and Jakarta and Savannah, Georgia, and São Paulo, Brazil, um, and way beyond in Uruguay, uh, as well.

And it shows up in so many different essays, Atlas projects.

and so forth, especially the intersection of visions of decommodified social housing, that is housing outside market logics that meets individual and community needs with resident governance as key, alongside with that of decarbonization and ensuring that public luxuries and multifunctional users are included.

Could you talk through some of the ways that social housing fits into the visions of a post-carbon future that some of the different authors in the volume outline?

Yeah, I mean, I think there's a way to think about housing as perhaps like the centerpiece of a post-carbon future insofar as like it is one of a small handful of things that every human requires to like to live at a basic level and to like flourish at perhaps like a higher level.

And I mean, the way I think about housing is always in green social housing in particular is just deeply indebted to Daniel Adana Cohen, who obviously is featured in the book as a contributor, but his work is kind of peppered throughout and is why in many cases why you can find green and social and green social housing projects in this book in places like California.

Vienna and Bordeaux and Jakarta and Savannah, Georgia and Sao Paulo, Brazil and way beyond in Uruguay as well.

And, you know, I think as part of like, again, to come back to the New Deal again for just a moment, like thinking about what that program did versus perhaps the way Europe responded to both the Great Depression and then kind of the post-war recovery.

And it was about essentially, you know, entrenched commodification.