Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats

I think you quoted an article in 2016 that was written by Gianna Pitella? I'm not sure if I'm saying her name properly.

The chair of a group called Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats in the European Parliament.

And she writes...

We've been infected.

She says, As Christian Democrats, we are convinced that the only way to counter the rise of the far-right in Saxony-Anhalt, in Germany and across Europe is listening closely to people, offering realistic solutions and presenting, based on our values, an optimistic vision for the future.

Jean-Marc Germain, a French MEP from the Socialists and Democrats.

An economist by training, he is a former advisor to former Prime Minister of France Lionel Jospin and one of the main figures within the Socialists and Democrats group in the European Parliament.

He said, as long as Europe fails to build economic sovereignty, the far right will thrive in the regions devastated by globalization and deindustrialization.

So let me welcome to the ring Hildegard Benteler and Jean-Marc Germain.

Don't go away.

Welcome back to The Ring, Euronews' weekly debate show.

I'm Stefan Grobe and I'm joined by Jean-Marc Germain from the Socialists and Democrats from France and Hildegard Bentele from the European People's Party from Germany.

This kind of caused or may have been behind some of the reasons why the migrants came."

So I think what's interesting in what Gerardo is reporting this morning is that while obviously things are not harmonious between the socialists at leader level, at intergovernmental level, that's not quite filtering down into the socialists and democrats, their party in the, the center-left party in the European Parliament, is it?

It's not, and it's because even if they wanted to have a big old spat and kind of expel Frederiksen's party, the Social Democrats, from the socialists over this, I think it would be a pretty big own goal because they are a small shrinking force on the EU scale-

Mm.