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Professional–managerial class

Professional–managerial class

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Oct 16, 2026

Andrew ThomsonHOST
17:57
They're racist." They, you know, is, is quite a, yeah, strange...
Andrew ThomsonHOST
18:01
Um, before we move forward, I w- I'd like you to explain the PMC sort of theory.
Andrew ThomsonHOST
18:07
'Cause I, I didn't, uh, you, you coined this.
Andrew ThomsonHOST
18:09
Is that, is that right?

7 MINS LATER

Andrew ThomsonHOST
25:18
Well, let's park that one.
Andrew ThomsonHOST
25:20
Park for now, 'cause I do want to ask about going ahead later.
Andrew ThomsonHOST
25:22
But I, on this sort of PMC thing, sort of there's this kind of liberal left.
Andrew ThomsonHOST
25:27
I, I find that element confusing and disorientating sometimes, and I think you have done quite a good job at articulating that.
speaker_0NARRATOR
110:24
Workers' governments would nationalize oil and gas and plan for energy on the basis of human need and ecological necessity, not private or imperialist nationalist diversions and bullying.
speaker_0NARRATOR
110:42
Pages twelve to fourteen, The PMC Is Not a Social Class by Rhodri Evans.
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110:51
The term professional manag- managerial class, PMC, was coined in 1977.
speaker_0NARRATOR
110:58
Barbara Ehrenreich, who coined it, thought that by twenty nineteen the class had been seriously smashed, i.e., dispersed into a variety of skilled white-collar worker occupations at one end and into full-on corporate managements at the other.
speaker_0NARRATOR
111:19
However, since then, discourses targeting that professional managerial class as the main or a main enemy of the working class have spread.
speaker_0NARRATOR
111:30
Catherine Liu's twenty twenty-one book, Virtue Hoarders: The Case Against the Professional Managerial Class, makes a case from a socialist left.
speaker_0NARRATOR
111:42
Her book is a squib, a polemical flourish against people in talking PMC positions with progressive politics which, um, amount to little more than virtue signaling, which, quotes, "To the majority of non, uh, college-educated people appear as pedantic, hypocritical, and punishing." End quotes.
speaker_0NARRATOR
112:09
Liu assuredly writes against those who think or operate as if they think that being a member in good liberal standing of the talking sections of the PMC is to be emancipatory enough.
Ben BurgisHOST
12:17
Um, another has been to say that the relatively simple class map you get in Capital, which is the same I was assuming in the argument earlier, has to be substantively revised.
Ben BurgisHOST
12:27
This is where PMC theory comes in.
Ben BurgisHOST
12:28
The idea is there's this professional managerial class in between the two.
Ben BurgisHOST
12:33
And there are two different lines of thought there that often get mixed up together.
Ben BurgisHOST
12:37
First, there's a thread of thinking about professionalized, bureaucratized layers that sort of run the machine for the capitalists, um, that goes back to at least James Burnham's The Managerial Revolution and really has roots before that, which says that maybe what you've actually got is a three-sided class war between workers and capitalists and this, you know, elite PMC group.
Ben BurgisHOST
13:01
And that, uh, the PMC could easily displace the capitalist class as the new ruling class.
Ben BurgisHOST
13:05
And, you know, maybe according to some versions of this, this is what happened in the Soviet Union.
Ben BurgisHOST
13:10
And maybe, and this is what the sort of more intellectual side of contemporary right populists, uh, tend to think, that's kind of happened under contemporary corporate capitalism.

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