15 years ago when I first started working my marketing agency, first started working for ProColombia in Colombia, one of the things that we were looking at promoting alongside birding was fishing.
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Gregg BleakneyGUEST
100:57
And so in your former career life, you're the head of travel experiences for a brand called Orvis, a fishing brand in the United States.
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Jason ElkinsHOST
101:05
Mm-hmm.
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