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Privileges or Immunities Clause

Privileges or Immunities Clause

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Oct 9, 2026

David UphamGUEST
10:41
So, um, what I wrote in my dissertation was, um, addressing a topic which I, I knew that scholars had generally recognized was important but had not addressed.
David UphamGUEST
10:51
And the importance is this: uh, the 14th Amendment Privileges or Immunities Clause, the one that gives rise to most, but not all of the historical disagreements, everyone who participated in the measure knew that it was based upon the existing Privileges and Immunities Clause of Article IV, Section 2.
David UphamGUEST
11:10
So the Privileges or Immunities Clause of, of 14th Amendment says, "No state shall make or enforce any laws which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." The authors of the amendment knew that had a very close relationship with, and said it in various different ways, uh, with the Article IV, Section 2, which says, "Citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states." So in trying to recover the original meaning, it seemed to me fairly, uh, important to know what did they mean in 1866 as to what Article IV required.
David UphamGUEST
11:42
What was the, uh, the meaning of Article IV, Section 2, on which the 14th Amendment's Privileges or Immunities Clause was built? Uh, and I discovered some, some interesting things.
David UphamGUEST
11:52
The n- title of my, um, dissertation was exploring, quote, "That unexplored clause of the Constitution," uh, the meanings of the privileges and immunities of citizens before the 14th Amendment And that term, that unexplored clause of the Constitution, was a phrase that was in a, a- an opinion of the United States attorney general, uh, in 1856 or 1857, effectively saying, again, this is one of the premier jurists of the country, "This hasn't been explored yet.
David UphamGUEST
12:23
We haven't really figured this one out yet.

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David UphamGUEST
18:13
And that was a provision in Missouri's Compromi- Constitution that said free Blacks can't enter the state.
David UphamGUEST
18:19
Um, this is the, after they, after they agree on, okay, we'll let you come in with slavery by thirty-six thirty, that's the most famous part of the Missouri Compromise.
Anthony SandersHOST
2:42
And so we're going to give some illumination to some of that legal history that we think is pretty important.
Anthony SandersHOST
2:50
And so what could be more important then the 14th Amendment for what we do here at IJ, especially the Privileges or Immunities Clause, which the Supreme Court buried in 1873.
Anthony SandersHOST
3:03
And part of our mission, part of our DNA, really, since we were founded in 1991, is to reinvigorate the Privileges or Immunities Clause.
Anthony SandersHOST
3:12
So a couple years ago, when we saw this article come out, General Law and the 14th Amendment, which is I mean, a lot of it is really about how to interpret the privileges or immunities clause.
Anthony SandersHOST
3:22
And it's by our friend Will Baude and also Judd Campbell, who's been on our Short Circuit podcast and Steve Sachs, who we enjoy his work, too.
Anthony SandersHOST
3:31
We thought, you know, this would be a good one for this new podcast.

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Will BaudeGUEST
29:06
Yeah.
Will BaudeGUEST
29:07
Um, so, so, I mean, there may be a lot that was keeping them from, from, you know, totally thinking clearly about it, but, but there is a way in which, I mean, there's a way in which justice Miller was right, that it would be a really big deal to, to second guess every area of, uh, of general law, fundamental rights and liberties.
speaker_2HOST
55:38
States can't create second-class citizens and states can't deny the rights of American citizens in their state.
speaker_2HOST
55:49
Then we have the Privileges or Immunities Clause, which says no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.
speaker_2HOST
56:03
This was intended to protect the fundamental rights of American citizens from state governments violating those rights.
speaker_2HOST
56:13
The phrase privileges and immunities had a specific legal meaning in 1868.
speaker_2HOST
56:19
It was drawn from Article IV's Privileges and Immunities Clause and from pre-Civil War legal traditions.
speaker_2HOST
56:31
John Bingham, the amendment's primary drafter, intended this clause to apply the entire Bill of Rights to the states, making the federal government the guarantor of individual rights throughout the United States.
speaker_2HOST
56:50
The idea was that the rights of every individual American citizen could not be abridged by state law.
speaker_2HOST
57:21
Louisiana had granted a monopoly on to one slaughterhouse company, effectively putting independent butchers out of business.
Ilan WurmanHOST
35:30
But this is explained in The Second Founding: An Introduction to the 14th Amendment.
Ilan WurmanHOST
35:33
The Privileges or Immunities Clause, the privileges or immunities of citizens, right, the clause that says, "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens," it refers to natural rights or civil rights, which are just natural rights modified by the laws of civil society.
Ilan WurmanHOST
35:46
Political rights are different.
Ilan WurmanHOST
35:48
The right to vote, to hold office, to serve on jury, to serve on a militia, these things presuppose the existence of political society.
Ted CruzGUEST
17:46
But he actually goes back and researches.
Ted CruzGUEST
17:49
He does so under what's called the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the 14th Amendment.
Ted CruzGUEST
17:53
And he goes and researches, why did they write this? What did the framers of the 14th Amendment understand and believe? And in particular, he chronicles how immediately after the Civil War, you had bands of marauders, you had precursors of the KKK who would come to freed black men, freed slaves, and they would disarm them.
Ted CruzGUEST
18:13
And laws seeking to disarm them meant that those freed slaves could be victims to lynching and all sorts of abuse.

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