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That was one of the things when I was doing my, my research on you.

You've taught, like, on, like, Print Magazine.

I l- I l- I was looking at a bunch of these different places where you had been interviewed and, you know, and it comes up quite a bit that I got that sense that you collect people, and that's something that matters to me as well.

I- in fact, you at one point, it's, you had said that you liked, as you traveled, you liked to go and stop and try to a- and try to meet up with designers in whatever city you were going to.

To

wrap up a little bit, you told Print Magazine there's been definitely a shift in sales since Joanne closed.

This was like, it was a big deal to me in the craft universe because I always went to Joanne to get fabrics growing up.

Can you cut a real number on what the shift was or has anyone from Joanne's side, whether it's corporate or liquidators or anything like that, actually reached out to you since the closures? Yeah.