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Sep 10, 2026

Cameron OtsukaHOST
23:25
So if you think about it, you're messaging some group of people who are all uh you know meeting online on some type of a forum whether that's telegram or that's uh the chat channel whatever it is um and they're acting as kind of this escrow middleman uh between uh somebody who is trying to uh you know maybe sell the uh identities of people they were able to scam or use those funds to then go purchase other types of services, whether those are, you know, actually gambling.
Cameron OtsukaHOST
23:56
In some case here, you can see on the right-hand side of this image, the linked to Prince Group, Jinbei Casino.
Cameron OtsukaHOST
24:02
And I do want to call out here specifically, you might have heard Prince Group before, Jinbei Casino before as well, because these all tie back to a prior treasury action from i believe it was last year against hui young group uh so it's a it's an offshoot of what that group was attempting to do uh jimby guarantee has kind of sprouted from those those roots and has turned into the the new uh marketplace that these scammers are using to uh to do this but Again, it's not really a corporate entity like we think of traditionally, but they're obviously touching these entities.
Cameron OtsukaHOST
24:40
So number one is Singapore-based SafeWTech.
Cameron OtsukaHOST
24:45
They're another sanctioned entity.
路德HOST
72:41
好的,路德。是啊,你看这个,这个中海运啊,中远海运,我跟你说,这个美国就是从根上打。啊。这个第一,中共,啊,官员这么说,中共驻华盛顿,华盛顿大使馆驳斥了美方说法,说,啊,说,中国政府绝不会要求任何企业和个人违反当地法律收集或提供违约海外的数据、信息和情报。 说我们反对通过兜售所谓情报收集的叙事来污蔑化中国,这种说法完全毫无根据。这些东西你嘴巴上说有用吗?他妈就跟祥林嫂一样啊。美国就是,说白了啊,就告诉你,你中共,你看二0二五年一月就已经将中远海运列入与中国军方有关联的公司名单。啊,中远海运,你想想,这都让你多活了一年多了,那不就开始要收手了,要开始。所以这就是中共啊,从体制上你不合规,就从宪法层面你不合规,你什么都是啊,政府啊,中共、政权,一党专制,所有都是,全部都是中共全部控制,你会死得很惨,知道吧。你像美国,他之所以没有政府控制东西,他都是民间,都是民间。你在法律上你打穿不了他的这个东西。要打穿中共法律现在是很简单的事儿。是不是,你说啊,他说中国政府没有允许,你看,啊,从来没有。这话说的就有点不对劲啊。中国政府绝不会要求任何企业等等。啊,他知道,你看,这个是对着中共,中共政府去的。他这里头首先第一啊,他们没有否认中远海运这个收集信号这事,你看。第二,他只是说中国政府不会要求任何企业,就像这个新冠,以后就,就算来自武汉实验室,但和中国政府和习没关系,属于是陈毅他们搞的,就这意思。他已经退要求其次,退到第二条阵线来了。他没有否认中远海运啊,违法当地法律收集海外的数据、情报或信息,只是说中国政府没有要求,没有否认,是不是?啊,可以,可见中远海运啊,做这个是已经做实了的,知道吧?但是嘞,他就说,就跟那个芬太尼是不是来自中国,啊,之前说坚决否决-- 否认啊,芬太尼是来自中国,后来说,啊,芬太尼是来自中国,不得不承认,对吧。和中国政府没关系,现在是中国政府,接下来可能跟习没关系,是底下人干的,是底下的中国政府啊。你看他就中国政府回头是跟李强有关系,啊,习属一下,属于党,属于党啊。他,他们中共的宪法写得嘛,他是国家主席,国家主席只给名义而已,啥事都是中国政府,中国政府就是中国国务院啊,党呢,是属于另外一块啊,他是党书记。中共中央属于中共的啊,和中国政府,你看,是中国政府绝不会要求任何。他后面还有几层啊回头。但是美国他其实就告你啊,所以他叫北京,懂吧?所以美国就是北京,哦,不管你北京是谁,凡是你北京,北京站,就中共中央,也包括你们中国政府,也包括中共军方,反正都是北京啊。所以你看中共这是不是心虚啊?某某师你怎么看?
莫博士GUEST
77:10
我觉得中共不但不心虚,不光心虚,而且还在什么?继续什么负隅顽抗,对吧。他说这句话的意思很简单,就是什么,即使证据确凿,即使罪行昭著,我也是死不认罪,对吧。那么这个时候美国看到这个东西,只会理信心暗里的是,哦,那就是我需要继续加码了,对吧。美国你可以看到,并不是因为中共不认罪,或者中共的什么啊,胡搅蛮缠会放弃打击,而他只是通过中共的这个对中共的罪行和认定进行下一步的确认。对中共,对美国现在政策和方法推行的这个什么阻碍和这个干扰,其实已经我觉得已经降低到很大了。说得我们直接一点,但凡中共在海运上对美国的情报上面有一点点能力的反抗,他都不至于说出这个话来。就像路德先生,他都不否认这些船已经涉嫌了情报的搜集和违反当地的法律。他只是说这跟中共政府没有关系,但这对美国来说其实也不重要。你只要有法-- 违反了法律,我就可以进行查处和起底。你中共国政府有没有能力或脱掉干系,未来我会有办法把你什么?抓到的,对吧?这就说明一个很核心的问题,中共国正从政府核心角度,他有一点点帮不了这些企业了。只要中国有能力,对吧,比如说中共在这种各种地方有犯法吗?绝对犯法,走灰色道路,他怎么办?但是以前为什么报不出来?就是因为中共通过国家力量,各种力量能把当地的司法跟军警搞定。你说我违法了,我把警察和法院搞定,他们说我没违法,那我的违法就不是违法。 对吧?我把当地的军警和特,呃,这个情报搞定,我说这边搜集情报啊,拿到的情报不是什么军事情报和对当地的危害,它就不是。它以前是摆得平的,拿钱和实力它是摆得平的。那么现在它摆不平了,就说明什么?这些国家要的条件和这些国家在权衡之后没有选择中共。中共现在这种情况,它已经摆不平的时候,它只能退而求其次。啊,这个东西你们拿到证据了,这属于私人行为和民企行为,跟我中共没有关系,你们不要追讨到我中共身上,对吧?已经出现丢车保帅。就像什么?中共看到所谓的这个缅北的诈骗集团、太子集团被抓了,立马跳出来:“啊,我中共也是强烈打击的。”对吧?这就是什么忍痛割什么,割,呃,这个割,丢卒保帅的方法,对吧?割腕求生的方式。中共绝对会这样做。也说明什么?现在这些中共的这些企业,大部分中共的军民融合的这些企业,大部分中共已经无力维护和担保了,只能开始进行优化选择,哪些是核心的,哪些是什么,啊,不是核心的,不足以要命的,都可以什么?抛弃。中共就是这个样子,到了关键时刻,它只会什么?掉头龟缩和跑起来。就像我们说的,什么叫做什么三万,呃,这个什么,万里长征。万里长征就是活不下去了,孤注一掷,什么利益都可以丢,找个地方什么?狼狈逃窜,找生存空间的一个战略转移和溃败。习我觉得也开始了,啊,对吧?为什么当年中共为什么几次因为自己的基地连续被打破,所谓的根据地连续被攻陷,没有办法,必须得什么?逃命。我觉得习现在的状况也越来越接近当时的中共了。好的,路德。
路德HOST
81:41
[吸气] 还有那个,稍等啊。那个哈萨克斯坦啊,买那个四十多亿美元,现在想起来那个铁路火车头。四十多亿美元,这个单子绝对不简单啊。你想想啊,第一它里面,刚才我们说了啊,它这个可以运别的东西,四十多亿美元。用零部件的方式运过去再,再组装。之地,就中共玩的,美国也可以玩。第二,这火车头,啊,运装备啊,它为啥要美国的火车头?是吧。这就是关键。美国火车头肯定,美国控制数据之地。第二,啊,这个,美国控制维修,离不开。运啥东西?因为你要知道啊,像美国很多什么坦克啊这种回头运,它只有美国火车头它运得了嘛。你想你,你见过吧,那美国火车头,它运,我的天,几十辆坦克。美国那些,你想想,它得要足够的载,载重啊,才给运得了。说白了哈萨克斯坦,我现在想想,二零二五年九月这个协议实际上背后是更大的啊。就跟当年诺门坎,是吧,当时一九三九年,苏联在诺门坎悄悄地运了一百多,一百多万军队过去,悄悄地,悄无声息。就那西伯利亚铁路,从莫斯科,啊,东边运过来,啊,从西边往东边,远东运,日本完全不知道。日本还以为,啊,当时在诺门坎,这个远东啊,它只有一个,是吧,一个什么骑兵营还是啥。后来一看,黑压压的坦克、装甲、飞机,把日本给吓傻了。悄无声息,就当时,啊,就是苏联最厉害就这一点。中共后来这一招美国也照样,什么玩兵的,就是以前的什么,啊,跨过鸭绿江,什么,长津湖的不就悄无声息地运嘛,运嘛。美国它不会吗?一样的。所以啊,刚才呀,啊,这里对中共的围剿的局,你现在把,再把过去很多未解之谜一点点往回翻,复盘的时候,你就会发现,这里面很多信号接上了,对上了。这就是习,啊,为啥?就是美国,你看,你,你有没有发现美国对中共的这种,啊,就越来越生气,不断地生气,是吧?现在嘛,直接说人民币了,啊,按照美国的大方向,我也不给你挑到百分之九十九,我也不让你水开,我也只挑到你百分之九十八,啊,不到你百分之百,让你,啊,别挺而走险,别豁出去了。慢慢地,这边边收拾你,实际上,啊,就温水煮青蛙,慢慢地安抚你,是不是?[吸气] 还让你参加啊,什么G20的会议,啊,让你过来,是吧。但实际上,啊- 啊,实际上是啥?然后其实G20会议就是针对你的,[笑] 让你过来,啊,你不签,也没有说把你赶出会场。哎呀,也没有说,啊,你看,一手硬一手 [敲击声]温柔是吧?两,两股力量一起,一起上。坚决,啊,不给你有机会挺而走险。其实你看现在对伊朗不也是这样吗?一点一点一点,打完以后,军事不出答案,基本,呃,你剩下只剩下一点点,有什——一点点残根,残根,啊,残余势力的时候,美国慢慢的,让你在舆论上都没有任何抓手来对美国,引起美国内争或者对——颠覆美国,啊,现在川普政府,让你来搞事,让你在股市上,啊。对,都是明修栈道,谁不懂啊,就你中共就那,那,那,说白了就那两把刷子,我操,就,就开始在那边满世界吹,是不是?就学得西牛逼得很,啊。都清楚。这这,我跟你说这都是很常规的招数。就千万别被中共的那,那个什么,什么三国演义啊那东西给忽悠了,知道吧?啊。就,就真以为我说中国的智慧,古老,古老智慧,全天下最,最牛逼。真,真的,别夜郎自大了,永远记住,啊。你的这个,这个维度是很低的,因为你不是充分竞争性的,懂吗?充分竞争,那西方你们上千年,从地中海,你看看,那点奥德赛那些,是吧,包括凯撒,那他隔多少年他就有战争,是不是?啊,斯巴达,斯巴达克斯的战神,你看,所有的你看,隔多少年,他其实,啊,这就是啊,由奢节泰啊,不,很简单的,就这么简单。我们现在说的说,他的这个模型,他就是一个这样模型,你中国,是吧,啊,就是自我驴拉磨,拦回拉,拦回拉,知道吧?所以你天天就是轮回在玩。现在你知道根本没有轮回这个轮型——模型,给他们AI一出来你就知道,世界没有,呃,这个轮回这个模型,它是进化模型,它是进化模型,它不是轮回模型,啊。如果你还守着那个轮回模型,绝对啊,你就被进化,就这么简单。所以啊,就中共的就那些思维能力很弱,我说的就这意思。就是第一,你没有太—战场态势感知能力,你,你之前吹牛逼什么刘伯恩是吧,啊,决胜千里之外什么张良,什么叫决胜千里之外?你,你战场态势感知一千里之外的事你都不知道,你咋决胜啊?你们就,中国就,啊,天天就玩,玩啥?什么?啊。那个奇门遁甲,玩这些,就是我不需要知道,我就给他推得出来。那叫自己骗自己,那叫自己忽悠自己,没意义,知道吧?天天如果自己忽悠自己玩,玩那些,啊,虚的,是吧,玩那玄的,[咳嗽] 你只会越来越落后,就告诉你,是吧?啊,啊,因为我,我,我能够,能够奇门遁甲,所以一千里之外的事我都推得到。对,你可以装大运,可以装一次,但是每次你能精准吗?啊,你就只——说白,说白了你随便推,啊,你总有一次推准,推准了一次,啊,这叫做你就开始吹牛逼,剩下九十九次你全部都不说 [笑]。所以那些算命的都是骗人的,知道不?啊。算准了一次,他就,他给你大吹特吹。对,你,你装都能装到,你们你天天坐在那个路边上给人算命,一天算一,二十个,一年下来几千个,几万,你总有一次说准了,说准了 [笑] 然后你就开始吹。我天哪!是不是?是不是这逻辑嘛?哦,你,你就忽悠底下的人信,然后让那个,说,说准的那个帮你来一起吹。哎哟,啊,这个,啊,这个半仙好厉害啊,上次我那个...中共所有的统治,中国历史上所有统治都是这个理论,都是——他是玩这个理论,啊。这所谓的皇帝他妈的统治底下,这不就是嘛,只要有一次准了,就开始,啊,大吹特吹。那中共也是一样,押宝押准一次,他就,我操,自古以来都是,他就永远的伟大、光荣、正确,明白不?押宝押对一次。现在这样,是,你现在我跟你说是要讲数据模型的准确性,海量的数据,你百分之多少能够成功,他讲这个,美国是讲这个模型。百分之九十九,百分之九十九点九,是吧。啊,海量数据里头你的判断准确性 [笑]。中国,这他妈落后,这就思维,知道吧?我不知道你怎么看。
莫博士GUEST
91:13
对的,现在这种落后思维,以前他们认为是什么?比美国的思维要高超,是新时代的思维,但是现在美国进行了什么改良或者是应对之后,中共的这种思维会带来很大的让他的缺失,对吧?就是你可以看到,他没有态势感知,他只有什么?他只有所谓的什么推算和什么运筹帷幄。什么叫运筹帷幄?只要事态不按照他们预定和预想的,就是事态的问题,不是他们的问题。 他们没有问题,而是有这个事情出了问题,是美国有问题。所以他们仍然认为自己是正确的。啊,这种麻痹也有好处,让他们可以什么?继续地活在自己的圈子里。这就是我们现在看到的一个方式。为什么习的很多情报是缺失的,和外面给他的反馈是缺失的,就是这种思想。很多事情,就是我们说当年为什么袁世凯要有顺天时报,不光是外面的人要骗袁世凯,而袁世凯本身也需要这种安全感的,对吧?你下面的人说实话会给他提供什么?不当的价值,他会失去一种控制。控制什么?自己的是错误的,自己的决定导致现在的节节败退。下面的人不敢说实话,他也不敢听实话。这是一个方式。我感觉习现在做的很多的无用功和错事,极可能就是这种心态。下面人告诉他的情况是错失的,他也不敢或者是不愿意听到对他不利的消息。这就会出现一个问题,大家看嘛,伊朗现在变成这种情况了,中共国还有中共的华文媒体,还有习那边的宣传仍然是什么?美国在深陷伊朗油田,这个泥潭,美国在伊朗上吃了有史以来的大亏。川普在伊朗上是一个致命错误,将让他失去什么?所有的什么政治筹码。中共在宣传,这就是什么?习的顺天时报和习自己对顺天时报的需求到了一个高度,他现在不敢面对事实。这是一个最大的问题,在战场和战争中,如果你不能面对真正失利和各种对自己不利的事实的时候,你这场战役基本上已经输了,对吧?你只会看到对你有利和只愿意听到对你有利的话。这就是中共现在一个非常尴尬,习的独裁把中共自己拖到了一个什么?无法自救的。就是中共现在对任何出现的应急状况和不利状况都没有应对策略。大家这就是我们最近解读,你发现没有,中共很多方式脱离了原有的一个方式,这个极像什么?这个以前我们不很多人做过一个,很多人收集和做过习的一个什么专辑,只要离开了习准备的小本本上的什么既定的程序和问题,他就会惊慌失措,无法应对。现在的中共就是这种状态。面对美国多元和创新的打法,不在他既定的战略中,他就会什么?无法应对,惊慌失措,甚至什么?错误地应对。这就是中共现在的一个极大的一个特色。好的,录。
Daniel KurzGUEST
6:10
Some reports found that AI enhanced fraud is four and a half times more profitable than traditional methods with agentic AI systems now capable of running fraud campaigns from reconnaissance all the way to through ransomware demand.
Daniel KurzGUEST
6:25
I like to Talk about the Prince Group that was recently sanctioned by the Treasury Department.
Daniel KurzGUEST
6:30
And there was a couple of indictments that came out from the Bureau recently.
Daniel KurzGUEST
6:34
This was a Cambodian Southeast Asian group that was basically a huge organized crime syndicate, structured like a company, had the old organized crime framework where these people report to these people, these people have different jobs to do.
Vanya VieiraCORRESPONDENT
13:56
The government has so far been reluctant to speak publicly on the issue, saying they support the police crackdown, while President Zurams Horta has advised media to speak to the state prosecutor.
Vanya VieiraCORRESPONDENT
14:09
Fraterline Central Committee member and political adviser in Parliament House Zuvinal Dias says the Prince Group case in Cambodia shows how syndicates set up resource-style compounds and hide behind government development projects to clean illicit funds.
Zuvinal DiasSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
14:28
The scammer techniques constantly evolve to protect their operations, to secure funds and to launder their money.
Zuvinal DiasSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
14:39
The operation of the Prince Group in Cambodia serves as a reference for how the mafia techniques are evolving in Timor-Leste.
Zuvinal DiasSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
14:51
Scammers utilize state development program to construct their own scam compound inside resort investment project.
Zuvinal DiasSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
15:02
And ultimately, the scammer using government initiative, government project, to launder their illicit money.
Michael McLaughlinGUEST
3:43
And just to the anecdote you were giving, when you're talking about the fraud mills, when you're talking about pig butchering schemes and other types of fraud that are continuously perpetuated against Americans in cyberspace, this is not an area that the almost unfathomable.
Michael McLaughlinGUEST
4:03
And we had back in, I think, October, the Prince Group takedown, which was about a $14 billion organization that the federal government was able to leverage the private sector to enable this takedown, take back $14 billion and put it into the victim compensation fund out of, I believe it was Malaysia, but it was a Chinese group called the Prince Group.
Michael McLaughlinGUEST
4:25
So that's an example of how this could potentially work.
Michael McLaughlinGUEST
4:27
It's just working through the machinations of that.
PhilHOST
35:10
This is fricking weird.
PhilHOST
35:12
All right, TLDR, in October 2025, the United States announced that it had taken over 127,000 Bitcoin, which we talked about, guys, to the Prince Group, alleged to have operated forced labor scam compounds across Cambodia.
PhilHOST
35:26
Immediately after publicizing the indictment, the Prince Group chairman, Chen Zhi, the US, the US entered into forfeiture proceedings attempting to make the coins the property of the United States government.
PhilHOST
35:40
The seized coins have been traced back to a now-defunct Chinese Bitcoin mining pool, Lu dian, and this is where it all comes from, guys, which had been used by Zhi to launder the scam proceeds according to the US.
PhilHOST
35:55
A law firm representing families and victims of 9/11 who have been previous, uh, who have previously been awarded over 90 billion US dollars in damages, okay? They already got 90 billion, are claiming that the coins should be given to them instead.
PhilHOST
39:42
The US denies the allegations.
PhilHOST
39:43
Ironically, Lubian itself has filed as a claimant in the forfeiture proceedings, stating that they had been hacked by unknown persons.
PhilHOST
39:51
The case around Prince Group's Bitcoin is the largest cryptocurrency seizure in dollar terms, worth around $9.7 billion.
Sam CooperHOST
11:00
I'm just going to throw out some names.
Sam CooperHOST
11:02
Prince Group, Samgore Triad.
Sam CooperHOST
11:06
Juan Kwok, Broken Tooth Koi, United Front Work Department, Ministry of State Security, People's Liberation Army Intelligence, Xi Jinping.
Sam CooperHOST
11:15
Chris and I have talked a number of times about how all of these entities are coming together for a new modern world.

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Chris MeyerGUEST
21:39
Well, yeah, Saipan is so much smaller and it's so much more vulnerable.
Chris MeyerGUEST
21:45
But this casino that you see, it was, you know, the master contractor was a state-owned company called MCC, Metallurgic Corporation of China.
Chris MeyerGUEST
21:56
And they provided the infrastructure for some of those Southeast Asian cyber prison camps that you mentioned that The Prince Group and Broken Tooth Koi was involved in those.
Chris MeyerGUEST
22:09
And MCC, who was building this casino, was building the infrastructure for their prison camps as well.
Christopher McCarthyGUEST
8:32
So there are NGOs and the government working on that.
Christopher McCarthyGUEST
8:36
At the same time, you see that the Prince Group chairman, Chen Zhe, was extradited back to China for his alleged crimes and participation in the scam industry and some other folks as well have also been either arrested or repatriated.
Christopher McCarthyGUEST
8:56
So we see progress there.
Ei Thant SinHOST
8:58
Cambodia has so much to offer, you know, has like this world-class destination like Angkor Wat.
Owen McDonaldHOST
0:28
Let's set the mood.
Owen McDonaldHOST
0:29
It's June 2026, and the U.S. Treasury is taking further action against Cambodia-based conglomerate Prince Group, which it alleges is a, quote, transnational criminal organization, unquote.
Owen McDonaldHOST
0:44
Treasury alleges that prior to its designation, the group oversaw a worldwide money laundering network.
Owen McDonaldHOST
0:50
Three months earlier, Treasury's 2026 National Money Laundering Risk Assessment warned that professional fraud networks are providing criminals with expertise and economies of scale.

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