Primeval

I think it was late 90s, maybe early 2000s.

There was a series on, I think it was ITV, called Primeval.

Was it

like a Doctor Who spin-off, Primeval?

No, it's the same thing.

Yeah, okay.

This is, like, the, the...

It's like seeing, like, the dinosaurs fight in Primeval with, like, the future predator where, like, you've got, like, the dinosaurs and the weird fucked up designs.

Mix that with, like, Ridley Scott's Prometheus with the, the, like, alien designs and also the, the fucking, like, they go in on the lore in this.

Like, the last 10 minutes of this movie is just about setting up, like, the sequel and the, like, the big fucking space opera of it all-

yeah for a little spin-off you know but it i mean even the show feels like that doesn't it it just as i was saying before it's like a quick punch of this this flavor this sort of different color of doctor who and then it's gone yeah because it can't really last very long you know generally anyway it's such an interesting time

were there primeval conventions

Was there a Primeval

magazine? Primeval definitely went for as many seasons.

Primeval went for like five or six seasons, I think.

Yeah, yeah.

And I had both the Torchwood figures and the Primeval figures because when I used to make my figure adventures, you obviously needed a few stock characters in there as well.

Those people weren't recognised, but they turned up every week to get killed by the Cybermen.

Yeah.

Now, now if you really want, you gotta get on the Primeval bandwagon, Ben.

[laughs]

I don't even know what that is.

Primeval, for the people that, the British audience that is listening to this, they would, they, they, they would be like, "Ah, yes, Primeval." It was around that same era.

It was the ITV Doctor Who, uh, competitor of like...

Imagine it's like Doctor Who mixed with Jurassic Park, where like dinosaurs was coming out of these portals in modern day.

So like these time like, uh, these, the, the, so these dinosaurs are coming out of these time portals, and now they have to mess with the time and the, get the, and also mess with the dinosaurs.

media does feel like it's, I don't know enough about the industry, but it feels like it was in a very different place back then because, I mean, maybe some of it was the success of Doctor Who itself, but obviously there were big American shows like The X-Files and Enterprise and what have you that all had their tie in fiction going alongside it at the same time.

But, you know, Primeval had tie-in books.

Being Human had tie-in books.

So they must have sold.

Matt's right this has got a great premise this sort of switcheroo feels like something it doesn't feel too much different from something out of like Ray Bradbury or something like that Where, you know, Sound of Thunder, it's kind of got that sort of feel to the premise.

And then you sort of sneak in the primeval thing of the sort of portals to get to and fro that sort of appear and disappear.

But in Primeval, there was some kind of an explanation for that, I feel.

Whereas here, they were just there.

And I...

And then it was a bit like, what is this then? And then it just, no one really wanted it and it stopped after a season.

I mean, that's the issue with TV series that end up in primeval times.

Primeval times are essentially quite boring because you have one dinosaur attacking.

Mm

... jacket and the jeans, because there are a, a myriad of bloody Primeval figures wearing-

Yeah, true

... just that.