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Sep 14, 2026

Safiya Umoja NobleGUEST
13:56
In fact, the invention of policing is really about the monitoring of Black people in this country, all the way back to the kind of origin stories of the slave trade and the practice of enslavement, the system of enslavement in the United States.
Safiya Umoja NobleGUEST
14:12
And so, um, when you think about the kind of historical data that is used, and this is, this, you know, predates Flock and Ring with software like PredPol, we know that using these kinds of systems to predict where crime might happen is really about trying to contain and control different kinds of people and communities, and that has been historically kind of a- around racial discrimination and redlining and containment.
Safiya Umoja NobleGUEST
14:42
So, you know, I see these as kind of a, a newer generation of these kinds of technologies.
Safiya Umoja NobleGUEST
14:50
Again, you see them overrepresented and used to, uh, predict where crime might take place, and usually that's about particular types of crime as well.
Jason KeblerHOST
15:40
It's sort of like, uh, there have been companies that have tried to do this before.
Jason KeblerHOST
15:45
There's one called PredPol, which is like predictive policing, literally.
Jason KeblerHOST
15:49
Um, that's based on just, like, crime statistics in a neighborhood, essentially.
Jason KeblerHOST
15:54
Um, and I actually don't know the current status of this, but this is the US government doing it, the federal government working with local police.
speaker_1HOST
7:58
We have to look at predictive policing.
speaker_1HOST
7:59
Cash-strapped police departments across the country in places like Reading, Pennsylvania, they use software programs like PredPol.
speaker_1HOST
8:07
And these are machine learning algorithms that absorb historical crime data and then draw little red squares on a city map predicting exactly where crimes are most likely to happen hour by hour.
speaker_0HOST
8:17
I mean, honestly, it sounds incredibly efficient.
AndyGUEST
9:11
You're right.
AndyGUEST
9:12
There's a tool called PredPol, and this company is out of China.
AndyGUEST
9:17
They developed an AI camera, but with advanced visual analytics.
AndyGUEST
9:23
And so this camera can identify individuals that can triangulate on your face and do facial recognition, but they also look for anomalies, including gait patterns.
AndyGUEST
10:24
Yeah, pretty big.
AndyGUEST
10:26
Now, a similar tool was used in Tacoma, Washington, where they saw a 22% drop in crime.
AndyGUEST
10:33
That tool was called PredPol.
AndyGUEST
10:35
And again, it looks for anomalies of behavior.
Jathan SadowskiHOST
4:02
He was really... vocal about this in his campaign saying, you know, we need to disassemble this surveillance state that has very obvious racist, regressive, classist consequences on the lives of New Yorkers and by extension, the lives of a lot of people because New York City is also this test bed for these technologies and then becomes an export industry for these technologies as well.
Jathan SadowskiHOST
4:30
Like, you know, things like PredPol, one of the first predictive policing companies out there, co-founded by William Bratton, who was New York City police commissioner during the Giuliani days, really was at the forefront of broken windows theory.
Jathan SadowskiHOST
4:47
If you...
Jathan SadowskiHOST
4:50
If you've watched The Wire and if you listen to our Media Diet episodes on the premium feed, you'll know my wife and I are re-watching.

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Edward Ongweso Jr.HOST
19:59
I don't think I had read too much about it, except I'd read bits and pieces about it, connected to very specific people.
Edward Ongweso Jr.HOST
20:07
You know, Tish, Tish's mentor, Bratton, you know, Neal.
Edward Ongweso Jr.HOST
20:11
Kelling, specific technologies, you know, PredPol, CompStat, domain awareness system.
Edward Ongweso Jr.HOST
20:20
And so I wanted, you know, the piece took many shapes as I was working on it, but I wanted to try to tell a story that said, okay, the technology layers are a very important part to hone in on because it actually communicates how hard it's going to be to, you can't, it's a much bigger beast, a much more unwieldy beast than we anticipate, right? And it's not something that can have, I'm not confident there are a lot of smart clever fixes that undermine it and that you do have to say no.

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