Poverty, Inc.

Sundance and FreedomFest, the Anthem Film Festival.

The documentary is Poverty, Inc., where an African entrepreneur tech, uh, they, they nicknamed him Bill Gates of Africa.

Of course, the Bill Gates in Africa ain't nothing to smile to [laughs].

You know, I don't know why they're all sterile, Marge.

Why don't you take the money that you've earned in your tour instead of just going on stage and barking at the people you've asked to pay hundreds of dollars to come see your show? Why don't you do something? I mean, Bono at least went to some of these sub-Saharan African countries to talk to them about debt relief.

And actually, believe it or not, if you've ever seen the documentary Poverty, Inc., had his comeuppance when he met some of the folks who were trying to elevate sub-Saharan African nations economically, and he found out all the debt relief aid agency stuff was actually, what's that word again? Oh, yeah, retarding.

actual economic progress in those countries.

You know, it's true.

And as a result, often when they are really involved, there's negative externalities of destroying market forces and creating dependencies.

I mean, look at Poverty Inc. and Africa and many terrible examples in Latin America as well.

But fundamentally, what you're trying to do is to create conditions for for countries and for people to do better over time.

And it's not just an altruistic thing.